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Old 11-15-2011 | 01:50 PM
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Do you need an extra key fob to mount in the dash with the starter? Some systems use that to get around the fob needing to be near the ignition?
I searched long and hard for an immobilizer bypass kit as that is what I was told I needed. I could not find one which did not have the requirement for a spare key. I decided to check to see if that was really the case as there were some things I have read about the immobilizer being 'alarm' based and not key transponder based.

i have a spare key cut which has no transponder in it. I used the remote to unlock the car which deactivated the security system, then leaving the remote in the house, I went to the car and it started first time with my key blank. I went for a drive around the block to make sure and there were no issues.

I have now programmed the remote starter to operate the security system, door locking etc and when I lock the car with the remote starter fob the security is active. When remote starting, the doors are momentarily unlocked, deactivating the immobilizer for the engine to start. As soon as the engine starts the doors lock again. All of this takes about 2 sec and the engine runs no problem.

So short answer, no I don't have a spare key fob in the car as the security system does not require it and a transponder bypass is just a waste of money.

Hope this helps (I have a Pro-start CT-3471TW from Canadian Tire)

 
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Old 11-15-2011 | 02:49 PM
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I think the reason a lot of people don't like remote/auto starts is because letting an engine idle to warm up is bad for it, wastes fuel and is annoying to the neighbors, if you have any.
A water cooled engine will warm up faster by driving it, even in sub zero temps.

As for the safety cutouts, I hope they are disabled when you start driving.
 
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Old 11-15-2011 | 05:15 PM
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I agree that the best thing for an engine is to warm up while driving but unfortunately not all of us have that option. I have to park my disco in a parking lot open to the elements and a wicked wind. I have no option to even plug in so if I am to get the engine started on a freezing winters night I have to be able to program the car to start itself during the day.

I can totally understand caution about remote starters, but in reality the computer module is just there to replicate the turn of a key and provided you trust the installation (care with the oem harness, soldering joints etc) there is no reason you should have any issues.

OK, when I say no issues, I mean no more than came with the vehicle from Land Rover. I guess that is why installers are reluctant to touch the factory wiring.....
 
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Old 11-15-2011 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Davies
if I am to get the engine started on a freezing winters night I have to be able to program the car to start itself during the day.
Where are you? I've started my Rovers at -20 (-60 windchill) without a problem.
 
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Old 11-15-2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Princess
Do you need an extra key fob to mount in the dash with the starter? Some systems use that to get around the fob needing to be near the ignition?
No. D2's do not have transponder keys, and NAS trucks have passive immobilization disabled. You can start the car with a plain metal key.

http://www.landroverclubvi.com/uploa...8604nasf_2.pdf
 
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Old 11-15-2011 | 08:13 PM
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I always let my truck warm up when its cold out.
Kinda hard to see with frosted up and or foggy windows.
 
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Old 11-15-2011 | 09:15 PM
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That's why I always kept an ice scraper in the car in the winter.

I don't know, maybe it's global warming. All the years I lived in VA, NJ, NH, VT, OH and WI I never let my cars warm up more than 60 seconds, just long enough to run fairly smoothly, and didn't have any issues nor felt life was unduly harsh. I have to admit though, heated windscreens are nice.
 

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Old 11-15-2011 | 09:28 PM
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Yes I scrap the outside, in MI the snow brush never leave the car, but I am talking about the inside of the windows, they frost/fog over from all of the moisture inside the cabin.
Snow melting off your boots, your breath, whatever, with no sun for 3 months the interior never gets warm enough to evaporate the moisture.
When the heater is on you have the windows up so the moisture cant escape.
I dont smoke so I dont roll my windows down, I dont do drive thus either.
So all of that water vapor just stays inside the car/truck and collects and freezes on the inside of the glass, cant see though it, if you scrap it then you need one big coaster for the dash so you dont get water stains.

Each to their own, I like a nice warm car to ride around in, but then I'm a wimp.
 
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Old 11-16-2011 | 10:40 AM
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I live just west of Calgary. Temperatures at work drop to -35 over the winter and with the wind chill it is fxxxxng brrrrrrrr!

I am already really looking forward to the remote start doing it's thing..
 
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Old 11-16-2011 | 12:47 PM
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Well, a big help to starting it would be a gear reduction starter from British Starters, a heavy duty AGM battery like Odyssey or Sears Platinum and beefing up the starter cables so you don't have as much volt drop.
 


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