Bad Idle and Horrible Mileage
There are currently no fault codes indicating problems with any of the O2 sensors. If I am able to get the misfire problem taken care of, and the codes stay cleared out, and I do not have any codes showing for a specific O2 sensor should they all be replaced or how would I determine which one if my gas mileage does not improve? If I remember correctly there are four all together. 2 before the cats and 2 after?
Most DII's only have 2 O2's, both posy cat.
You wont get any O2 codes until they fail completely.
Reduced O2 performance will reduce your MPG.
I would replace the wires, clean the codes and then check your MPG over the next tank or two and see what happens.
You wont get any O2 codes until they fail completely.
Reduced O2 performance will reduce your MPG.
I would replace the wires, clean the codes and then check your MPG over the next tank or two and see what happens.
Thank you for the advice. I will most certainly follow it if the wires and/or coil pack does not fix the problem. I will be downloading the Rave manual once I get home from work so that I can look up the information on changing out the O2 sensors if need be. I hope to also compile a list of different sensors and parts that I can order to have on hand so that when I need to replace something I don't have to wait for a part to come in.
I just did some research, both via the D2 Workshop manual and also physically looking. According to the D2 workshop manual, ALL NAS Disco II vehicles have 4 o2 sensors. 2 pre-cat and 2 post-cat. (2 front o2 sensors shown on page 442 of D2 workshop manual pdf) I have located the ones in the engine compartment, and it's too cold outside (and too much snow) to check for the other two, though I am sure they are there where they should be. As I do not have any fault codes and I have been told that they won't show codes until complete failure, which set are more likely to be causing the bad gas mileage? Originally before all problems were present I was getting roughly 14-17 mpg, now I am getting 7 mpg.
I will be replacing the plugs again next week, also finally replacing the plug wires. Hopefully this will take care of cylinder 2 and 3 misfiring. Hopefully it will also take care of the mileage problem. Other options if the misfire is still there, I will be replacing the coil and if I must, replace some o2 sensors if the mileage problem is still there, though I am not sure which 02 sensors I must start with since there are no codes telling me which ones out of the four are bad, if they're bad that is.
I will be replacing the plugs again next week, also finally replacing the plug wires. Hopefully this will take care of cylinder 2 and 3 misfiring. Hopefully it will also take care of the mileage problem. Other options if the misfire is still there, I will be replacing the coil and if I must, replace some o2 sensors if the mileage problem is still there, though I am not sure which 02 sensors I must start with since there are no codes telling me which ones out of the four are bad, if they're bad that is.
Last edited by Photographer2009; Dec 16, 2009 at 01:50 AM.
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