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Old 02-20-2019, 07:55 PM
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hey guys, im considering swapping my ratios, from factory 3.54 to 4.11’s. I have 33” tires and a big rack (no pun intended). My truck absolutely sucks uphills. Anything paved with a grade, mountain passes, etc, forget about it. I feel like I’m going to blow a head gasket, and the truck hates life.

For ~$760 in parts, is it worth it? Does it make a noticeable difference?

A quick calculation gives the approx rpms of a stock d2 in 4th gear as:
2525rpms @ 70mph
2886rpms @ 80mph

For stock gearing and 33”s
2235rpms @ 70mph
2554rpms @ 80mph

For 4.11’s and 33”s
2602rpms @ 70mph
2974rpms @ 80mph

So currently I’m at about 290rpms less than what I should be at 70mph. The 4.11’s would be about 77rpms more than a factory rover at 70mph, so pretty close to factory.

Any thoughts? Obviously it’s not the flat freeway stuff I have problems with or short grade climbs <30min, but I can no longer take my truck up the longer mountain passes for fear of blowing the motor.





 

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Old 02-20-2019, 08:23 PM
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I’ve been considering this as well. I have a similar setup ( 33”s, rack, etc.) and have been wondering if it’s worth it.

 
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Originally Posted by Dsport
hey guys, im considering swapping my ratios, from factory 3.54 to 4.11’s. I have 33” tires and a big rack (no pun intended). My truck absolutely sucks uphills. Anything paved with a grade, mountain passes, etc, forget about it. I feel like I’m going to blow a head gasket, and the truck hates life.

For ~$760 in parts, is it worth it? Does it make a noticeable difference?

A quick calculation gives the approx rpms of a stock d2 in 4th gear as:
2525rpms @ 70mph
2886rpms @ 80mph

For stock gearing and 33”s
2235rpms @ 70mph
2554rpms @ 80mph

For 4.11’s and 33”s
2602rpms @ 70mph
2974rpms @ 80mph

So currently I’m at about 290rpms less than what I should be at 70mph. The 4.11’s would be about 77rpms more than a factory rover at 70mph, so pretty close to factory.

Any thoughts? Obviously it’s not the flat freeway stuff I have problems with or short grade climbs <30min, but I can no longer take my truck up the longer mountain passes for fear of blowing the motor.





Yes, 100% worth the swap, 33" tyres are +13.6% gearing increase and the drag fro the rack won't be helping you out at all.

​​​​​​I am about to order up the ring and pinions for my own 200Tdi engined Discovery.
 
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:19 AM
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I'd say you are right there for a swap, 33's are the straw that breaks the camel's back, as far as I'm concerned. Missed a set of 4:11 gears with lockers last year, and kick myself every time I think about it.

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Old 02-21-2019, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nigelw
Yes, 100% worth the swap, 33" tyres are +13.6% gearing increase and the drag fro the rack won't be helping you out at all.

​​​​​​I am about to order up the ring and pinions for my own 200Tdi engined Discovery.

Have you done a hearing swap or planning on it?
 
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From my experience with the 2 lr3 the stock one feels like a race car with stick tires compared to my lifted with rack and 32.5" tires. I would consider regearing if their was a option. I drove a regeared Disco on 35s and it felt really good still
 
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Originally Posted by ArmyRover
From my experience with the 2 lr3 the stock one feels like a race car with stick tires compared to my lifted with rack and 32.5" tires. I would consider regearing if their was a option. I drove a regeared Disco on 35s and it felt really good still
can you clarify? I think there are a couple typos in there. Are you talking disco 2 or LR3/disco 3?
 
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Im not sure it would be any cheaper with the labor included.

But Ashcroft transmission has a ratio change on the transfer case for 275 pounds ($360).

That would change the overall gearing and instead of tearing apart 2 axles it would be one transfer case.
 
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:40 PM
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Jesus, can someone who has actually done this please add something!?! PLEASE!?!?
 
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank4
Jesus, can someone who has actually done this please add something!?! PLEASE!?!?
^^^what he said, please!

Isn’t this interesting? I’ve seen gear ratio changes recommended countless times in the “what tire size should I get” type threads. yet, not many who have actually gone through with it. I stack that up to most d1/d2/lr3/rr classic owners being thrifty do-it-yourselfer types. And an expensive parts change which requires speciality knowledge/tools, doesn’t really fit the demographic.
 


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