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Old 02-11-2024, 03:09 PM
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Hi all,

im working on Head gasket job on my 2004 D2, im a noob, it’s my first one. I bought this D2 with clean carfax and 60k miles, is in pretty good condition. I drove it for around 2000 miles and never overheated but noticed small coolant leak in the front side of the engine right where the block and heads meet, and a valve cover gasket leak so I decided to adventure into a full HG job.

When I pulled the Cylinder heads I noticed that had handwritten marks on them with what seems to be a number 8 in one and number 22 in the other (see pics). Does anyone knows what these numbers mean?

 
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Old 02-12-2024, 04:05 AM
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maybe the nuber of the head when it was stored on a shelf in a breakers yard
 
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Old 02-12-2024, 08:07 AM
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It looks as though you might be working on cleaning those heads up yourself. Don't bother.

The general (strong) consensus is that whenever you do a HG job, heads should be professionally worked to insure a perfectly flat mating surface. A valve job is generally part of the job as well. A machine shop will dip them removing all carbon and they will be like new.
 
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Old 02-12-2024, 09:10 AM
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For both my P38 and D2 I had the heads machined at a shop, but I didn’t have the valves done (both engines only around 150,000 km). If I do another one and have the time, I want to try to resurface it myself. I think I could do as good a job. I don’t regret not having the valves done on these relatively low mileage engines.
 
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Old 02-13-2024, 05:20 AM
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I'd check the heads out myself before I went them off to a machine shop. Good metal straight edge and a feeler gauge to check the flatness. Pour some gas in each combustion chamber and see if it leaks past the valves to check valve seal.
 
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Old 02-17-2024, 08:31 PM
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Harv... when you say you would tackle the re-surfacing of your heads, how would you go about that? Do you have access to a milling machine? (Maybe there is a potential cottage industry here for you!)
 
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Old 02-17-2024, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WaltNYC
It looks as though you might be working on cleaning those heads up yourself. Don't bother.

The general (strong) consensus is that whenever you do a HG job, heads should be professionally worked to insure a perfectly flat mating surface. A valve job is generally part of the job as well. A machine shop will dip them removing all carbon and they will be like new.
I hand lap heads on a glass table to .001 of an inch. Sandpaper on a leveled surface is as good as any machine shop. I cut 3 angles into the seat by hand with a Neway kit. Have been doing it for 24 years that way. I'm better than any machine shop.
 

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Old 02-18-2024, 05:55 PM
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As RMT says, a good thick glass plate with sandpaper. I’m interested in how you do the 3 angle valve seats without a machine. Many years ago I worked at a light aircraft engine overhaul shop where we did very good 3 angle grinds, but we had all the equipment. I also have no trouble believing you do a better job than any automotive machine shop.
 
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Old 02-21-2024, 12:42 PM
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Just like this.
 
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Old 02-21-2024, 01:54 PM
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Thanks for the video. I’m sure I’ll get set up to do that myself in the next few years.
 


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