Head gasket gone or engine block cracked?
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Head gasket gone or engine block cracked?
Hi everyone,
I am looking into buying a Land Rover discovery II 2002 Westminster edition. It has 198 000km on it. There are no maintenance history and the dealer told me it needs a new head gasket. The car goes for 2400$, it’s kinda a shot in the dark.
I read so far that it is a common problem on those models, but is there anyway to know if it is the head gasket or it is engine block that is cracked without removing the head? Thanks a lot in advance.
Regards
Mathieu
I am looking into buying a Land Rover discovery II 2002 Westminster edition. It has 198 000km on it. There are no maintenance history and the dealer told me it needs a new head gasket. The car goes for 2400$, it’s kinda a shot in the dark.
I read so far that it is a common problem on those models, but is there anyway to know if it is the head gasket or it is engine block that is cracked without removing the head? Thanks a lot in advance.
Regards
Mathieu
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You would have to know what codes are lighting the CEL. Is it lit? Did the dealer just clear all of the codes? You want to know if the supposed HG leak is external or internal. If internal, what cylinder is having misfires. Inner 4 = block issue... Corner 4 usually HG related.
I just read read about checking the spark plugs to see if the inner 4 are cleaner than the others, something to look into. Thanks for the fast reply
Mathieu
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Misfire codes on the inner 4 cylinders = P0303 - P0306... 3-6 are inner... 1, 2, 7, 8 are outer.
Best practice would be to do at least a half hour test drive up to highway speeds. Look for any dash lights etc. Optimally take a code reader and see what if anything is present. Note if all of the warning lights illuminate when you turn the key to the second position. Instrument clusters have been know to have been tampered with on vehicles with no service history. Assume no preventive maintenance has been done. Best case paying an independent LR shop this will cost you $2000. Worst case it could need a new block. I wouldn't pay anything until I knew which case this is in... You can get these needing head gaskets for under $1000 all day. Ultimately it depends on what you pay and how much of it you can do yourself. If you go look at it they should be able to show you where the HG leak is. At the very least how they diagnosed it.
Best practice would be to do at least a half hour test drive up to highway speeds. Look for any dash lights etc. Optimally take a code reader and see what if anything is present. Note if all of the warning lights illuminate when you turn the key to the second position. Instrument clusters have been know to have been tampered with on vehicles with no service history. Assume no preventive maintenance has been done. Best case paying an independent LR shop this will cost you $2000. Worst case it could need a new block. I wouldn't pay anything until I knew which case this is in... You can get these needing head gaskets for under $1000 all day. Ultimately it depends on what you pay and how much of it you can do yourself. If you go look at it they should be able to show you where the HG leak is. At the very least how they diagnosed it.
Last edited by Dave03S; 08-18-2019 at 12:08 AM.
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Matty4364 (08-18-2019)
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Thanks a lot Dave, very crucial info. I can handle it if it is a head gasket. Not knowing the maintenance history (if I buy it of course), I will flush the engine oil, transmission oil and coolant as well. I am buying the car as a DIY project.
The disco I am looking into is a Westminster edition, what are the differences between a regular disco serie 2 and this edition?
Mathieu
The disco I am looking into is a Westminster edition, what are the differences between a regular disco serie 2 and this edition?
Mathieu
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shanechevelle (08-18-2019)
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Head gasket failure seems to be pretty common, the body of the vehicle is in great shape, no rust and accident free. The test drive should give me a good idea.
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It’s not a Land Rover dealership, that’s why they won’t bother doing it. They sell the car as it is. To get parts isn’t that expansive and I planned on doing the job myself. I will try to the get the car cheaper since the car comes with known mechanical issues.
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