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Camel Trophy
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RE: Hey
ORIGINAL: Mark G
Just to give you a parallel example, my parents purchased used Lincoln Continental a few yrs ago(the previous gen). They ridegreat and they're fine cars. They also have their known weaknesses. At some point, an air shock went bad and they're told it's like $700 to replace one! Then another one goes bad. Because they didn't replace then right away, the air pump dies (it ran too much). Then, the head gaskets leak a few months later (another $1,300). Then the power steering pump goes out (another $200). Then, there's an electrical gremlin that crops up (another couple hundred). Well, these problems were all known weaknesses of these vehicles, and I know several people that have had their energy sapped by the same issues. My folks weren't happy about the extra expenses, butthey stuck with itand ultimately got a ton of troublefree miles out of it w/o too many more issues. At the same time, I also owned the same model Continental and I was able to do the heads myself in a couple days on/off work ($300), and when my air ride gave fits, I was able to quickly track the problem down to a solonoid ona shock that was only $25 to fix (a commonthing where most shops change the whole shock). I didn't let it go until the air compressor crapped out. I replaced my steering pump when it started to groan, and before it failed. I also got a lot of fun and trouble-free miles out of my car. My point is, luxury vehicles, be they Mercedes, BMW, Jag and even Toyota Land Cruiserscan have issues that crop up. Be prepared mentally, financially (ie warranty, tools, low mileage, or cash)and you will be a satisfied owner. I think you might see some posts on this site where owners sold their Disco's because they weren't prepared, either mentallly or financially (or both) for the possible maintenance issues that could crop up.The satisfied owners, tend to understand machines require maintenance, and many can, or want to do some upkeep work themselves.
Just to give you a parallel example, my parents purchased used Lincoln Continental a few yrs ago(the previous gen). They ridegreat and they're fine cars. They also have their known weaknesses. At some point, an air shock went bad and they're told it's like $700 to replace one! Then another one goes bad. Because they didn't replace then right away, the air pump dies (it ran too much). Then, the head gaskets leak a few months later (another $1,300). Then the power steering pump goes out (another $200). Then, there's an electrical gremlin that crops up (another couple hundred). Well, these problems were all known weaknesses of these vehicles, and I know several people that have had their energy sapped by the same issues. My folks weren't happy about the extra expenses, butthey stuck with itand ultimately got a ton of troublefree miles out of it w/o too many more issues. At the same time, I also owned the same model Continental and I was able to do the heads myself in a couple days on/off work ($300), and when my air ride gave fits, I was able to quickly track the problem down to a solonoid ona shock that was only $25 to fix (a commonthing where most shops change the whole shock). I didn't let it go until the air compressor crapped out. I replaced my steering pump when it started to groan, and before it failed. I also got a lot of fun and trouble-free miles out of my car. My point is, luxury vehicles, be they Mercedes, BMW, Jag and even Toyota Land Cruiserscan have issues that crop up. Be prepared mentally, financially (ie warranty, tools, low mileage, or cash)and you will be a satisfied owner. I think you might see some posts on this site where owners sold their Disco's because they weren't prepared, either mentallly or financially (or both) for the possible maintenance issues that could crop up.The satisfied owners, tend to understand machines require maintenance, and many can, or want to do some upkeep work themselves.
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Thanks for all the replys. Lots of that info helps a lot. Could someone go into a little more detail about how the engine management system on the DII is different from the DI. What kind of axels do they have? Are they coil sprung all the way around? Thanks a bunch. i'm not new to cars just LR'sso feel free to get deep with it. Again appreciate it!
Thanks for all the replys. Lots of that info helps a lot. Could someone go into a little more detail about how the engine management system on the DII is different from the DI. What kind of axels do they have? Are they coil sprung all the way around? Thanks a bunch. i'm not new to cars just LR'sso feel free to get deep with it. Again appreciate it!
Which one is better? Thats all opinion.
Same engine just differant engine management. And I think that the GEM's is easier to work on, less stuff in the way.
All have solid axles front and rear and coil springs on all four corners. Unless you get one with air ride then the rear springs are replaced with airbags. And when they go bad, and they will, you can replace them with coil springs.
Hope this helps.
Camel Trophy
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BMW bought Rover in 94 and sold to Ford in 99.
The air bags won't go out any more often than coil springs should be replaced. There are aftermarket alternatives that have lifetime guarantees. I know a few people that love the ride, both on and off road..Just because you have them doesn't mean they are going to break...
The air bags won't go out any more often than coil springs should be replaced. There are aftermarket alternatives that have lifetime guarantees. I know a few people that love the ride, both on and off road..Just because you have them doesn't mean they are going to break...
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6th Gear
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I know they are solid axel i was wondering more what kind of rating they had quarter ton, half ton ect. How do they compare to dana axels about like a D44 or more like a D35. Sorry if these questions are redundant but i never have any luck with the search features on forums there is so much that they turn up that its impossible for me to sort through. Also one more question if its not to much trouble whats the deal with the lifts with LR's how much lift does it take to clear a certain tire. I know i've probably been a little trouble but i really do appreciate all the help!
Camel Trophy
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Don't know what rating the axles have, but they are a little on the weak side. You can upgrade the axles, and replace the diffs with lockers.
247/75/16 is the largest you can run stock. OME wil get you up to 31,32. RTE will get you to 33". What size tries are you wanting to run?
247/75/16 is the largest you can run stock. OME wil get you up to 31,32. RTE will get you to 33". What size tries are you wanting to run?
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i was hoping to put a 2 inch body lift on it and run that for a while maybe with stock tires and then eventually going up to a 2 inch suspension lift ontop of the body lift and running 33's does that sound right?
Camel Trophy
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Don't think you will want to do that. Adding height to worn out springs will just make you wobbly. I think you will want to go with the RTE lift for 33" tires. Much more than 3" and you have to start adjusting for pinion angle and extending brake lines. You might want to start another post to ask questions about a lift.
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