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Old 02-24-2013, 06:23 AM
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Let's review the questions - can you add ACE? Yes, but really expensive and complex. If you have to ask, you most likely are not prepared to do it.

Is ACE good? Yes, it would be an asset.

Are there things to avoid when driving? Yes. And near me there are no moose, but plenty of other wild critters incluidng 400 pound hogs. And a military base where along the long boring straight main road across 35 miles of base a lone soldier will step out from the pine trees along the road. This is a bad sign, because it means a Bradley or Abrams is about to lurch out of the trees and cross the road. That soldier is there to kick the big dirt clods back to the side of the road. Most years someone decides to have a close encounter with an Abrams, and I can assure you the depleted uranium battle armour has not had to become the crumple zone yet. Defensive driving is always a must, in any conditions.

Is God with Spike when driving? You can bet on that, and he is with you, too. Perhaps you should try a knee mail from time to time.
 

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Originally Posted by TRIARII
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ACE was not designed for hooligans riding tight corners in sports cars. People often mistake the purpose of the ACE system and consequently they also underestimate its potential. Consider extreme circumstances where you are forced to make a sudden unexpected evasive maneuver of your SUV. For example up here in New England there are 4 common reasons to perform a sudden evasive maneuver:

1) Moose
2) Deer
3) Wild Turkeys
4) Bears

Imagine driving down a road at 45-50 MPH (Legal speed limit) and suddenly a Moose pops pops up on the road in front of you. Being how top heavy our SUV's are, combined with the rate of speed we will either collide with the animal or try and slow down and swerve around the animal to avoid a potentially fatal collision. Without the ACE I truly feel VERY unsafe in this scenario.

ACE like the SLS also perform very well in off-road applications. So why dont you do some research into the innovations applied by LR so you can better appreciate them. One thing I like about LR is how their innovations can be applied to multiple applications. A "soccer mom" as Spike calls them might use the SLS system to lower the vehicle to make loading in groceries into the back easier. SLS also makes attaching a trailer easier since you can lower the vehicle down, and of course the SLS also improves the stability of the vehicle while towing because it raises the rear end which otherwise would be sagging down due to the weight of whatevers being towed. In off-road applications the SLS can be used to maximize ground clearance and assist with approach angles on those tight areas. Same thing can be said with the ACE because LR designed it to be used in different applications making it ideal for many different types of people and their needs.

And Spike, may god be with you and your family if ever your forced to perform an evasive maneuver in your Disco, considering all the extra weight you have mounted on the roof. I love full size roof racks/baskets to but they only make the issue of a top heavy SUV even worse, especially without the ACE.
We dont have moose here, we do have elk, whitetail, bears, wild turkeys...and as a professional driver I know EXACTLY what to do if something other than a person runs out infront of you, you slam on the brakes and keep it straight, hit it if you must but for the love of God if you value your life and the lives of those with you NEVER EVER swerve because 9.9 times out of ten when you swerve to miss those things you wrap yourself around a tree and die.
Happens all the time here, there are even signs posted by the state that says "dont veer for deer"
As someone who has put on more miles in reverse than you have total I can avoid emergency situations by planning ahead, using my bright lights when needed, I slow down at night, I dont speed, ever, I anticipate my stops as well as what other are doing, I dont tailgate.
Look past the car infront of you, what are the 2-3 cars infront of the guy infront of you doing?
Are their brake lights on? Yes? Then the guy infront of you is going to use his brakes to, so you start slowing down before he does, if hes not paying attention hes going to slam on his brakes and if you're not ready you will hit him.
No need to look at his brake lights, your eyes automatically see things under you, try it.
Walk down the sidewalk and look straight ahead and not at your feet, you will notice the stick laying on the sidewalk and your eyes will automatically focus on it.
I have not had to make a emergency maneuver in, gosh, I dont know, over 10 years and I drive over 100,000 miles a year (if you combine everything I drive)
Its not luck avoiding accidents and emergency maneuvers, its skill.
When you rely on things like ACE and ABS to avoid accidents and those things fail, and they will, you will have no idea on what to do and you will crash.
You have to always plan your next move, leave yourself a out, you are in heavy traffic on the highway, if everyone infront of you stops where are you going to go? Can you swerve to the shoulder or median?
You're stopped at a stop light behind another car, the guy behind you is not stopping, where are you going to go? Did you leave enough room between you to crank the wheel gun it and get out of the way? Is there anywhere you can go?
Slow down, leave yourself a out, plan your next move and dont be a jackass.
 
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:50 AM
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And no, the Disco is not top heavy, everything heavy is down low, if you get under the truck and actually look at it everything is tucked inside the frame or below it, solid axles, heavy and below the center of gravity (you know what that is right?), engine, t-case, trans, below the center of gravity.
The body panels are aluminum, lighter than steel, 80% of the Disco's weight in at frame level or below and these trucks are not as hard on the springs or as heavy on the springs as someone would have you think.
Here is what 45* looks like, which is the factory spec rollover angle.


 
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Passengers got out with scratches. No other vehicles involved. Note head light still on, that is why you want your inertia switch to be hooked up. Drive foolishly and you can tear up or flip most anything.



New ones can flip as well.



And don't need a roof rack, just under skilled driver.



Rover mass is always a plus (except for mpg).



The driver got out and ran away, as did another passenger, two passengers to the hospital. The Rover enthusiast in the tie is thinking "I could have used that cooling fan"
 

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Ill admit I did underestimate these vehicles in regards to your odds of surviving an accident in one. Seems they dont do to bad. I'm not saying you should rely 100% on ACE and ABS to do all the work in a emergency situation, just that these features can help improve safety.

As for the Moose, well you guys are giving the wrong advice that could kill somebody! You NEVER drive straight into a Moose. These animals are not like your friendly neighborhood "bambi", Moose can weight as much as 1,600 lbs and are extremely aggressive. They will not hesitate to charge you, dosent matter how big your vehicle is. If you continue to drive straight into a moose you will collide with their legs forcing their body to come crashing down through the windshield and probably killing everybody inside the vehicle. These animals have dark fur that blends in PERFECTLY with the woods and even more so at night. If your using large hella lights then you have a greater chance of spotting these animals from a safer distance but for most people in New England in Canada, by the time they are able to recognize the large animal in front of them it is to dam late.

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Never underestimate the destructive capabilities of a Moose! There is a reason why local governors /taxpayers spend so much $$$$$ on Moose Prevention. Safe driving alone does not protect you from a Moose.



Injuries from Motor-Vehicle Collisions with Moose --- Maine, 2000--2004
 
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That is EXACTLY why you slow down when you know moose and squirrel are in the area.
Slow down even more at night.
Moose are big, tree's dont move, its your choice.
You told people to swerve to mis a turkey, you're going to chance a tree encounter of the first kind over a 20lb bird?
I hit a tree before when I was 17, plowed into it at 60mph in a 1980 Ford Escort, no seatbelt, no airbags, I was literally 10min from being dead.
I still have problems from that accident today.
I'll take my chances with a animal over a oak tree any day.

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Old 02-24-2013, 05:20 PM
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The roof in the blue chevy was peeled back by the fire department, not the moose.
 
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by antichrist
The roof in the blue chevy was peeled back by the fire department, not the moose.
But the fire department did not place the moose inside the cabin of the car Imagine the occupants of that car......
 
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The moose flipped up and over the car and landed on the back window after being hit.
 
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Moose was trying to get A free ride
 


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