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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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...I would suggest holding out for an 04, as they are more desireable with the CDL. Good for resale and driving. Sorry 03 guys, just my opinion...
Hey, at least there's one problem you'll never see posted by an 03 owner... that's a problem with the CDL.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Don't bother Camdisco24....he's a gonner.Looks like his ********* have already found their way into his Wifes purse.Once a guy says "my Wife and I want"...he's a lost cause.Let us bow our heads to remember our lost Brother.
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We are looking to sell to go green (hybrid).

Lance

Lance, I know there is alot of hype about hybrids but not all of it is true. If you really love your disco I would keep it. It will last longer and have more personal value. But what ever floats your boat. On a side note here are a few facts for you to consider:


[ul][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles cost considerably more than conventional vehicles. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles get worse fuel mileage on the open highway because of the added weight of the battery bank and the lack of any energy regeneration. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles have a high maintenance cost. Battery replacement is a major expense. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles generally have very small gasoline or diesel engines. Therefore, the air-conditioning system will place a high load on the tiny engine that will reduce the gas mileage drastically. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicle manufactures have tended to exaggerate the fuel economy. Many owners are disappointed when they cannot obtain the fuel economy as advertised or promised by the salesmen or as shown on the manufacturer's window sticker. [/align][/ul]There are actually alot of negative environmental effects that hybrids will have in the future (with battery acid and stuff like that) if you really want to go "green" i would advise you to wait until we advance a but more with automotive technology, the hybrid is just a rough draft... its a start though! Anyways, just wanted to put that word out for you, but as for me I have been against the false marketing of hybrids since the beginning. Good luck with whatever you do!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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HAHAHA.
RIP....
 
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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ORIGINAL: Camdisco24

ORIGINAL: lebrult

We are looking to sell to go green (hybrid).

Lance

Lance, I know there is alot of hype about hybrids but not all of it is true. If you really love your disco I would keep it. It will last longer and have more personal value. But what ever floats your boat. On a side note here are a few facts for you to consider:


[ul][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles cost considerably more than conventional vehicles. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles get worse fuel mileage on the open highway because of the added weight of the battery bank and the lack of any energy regeneration. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles have a high maintenance cost. Battery replacement is a major expense. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles generally have very small gasoline or diesel engines. Therefore, the air-conditioning system will place a high load on the tiny engine that will reduce the gas mileage drastically. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicle manufactures have tended to exaggerate the fuel economy. Many owners are disappointed when they cannot obtain the fuel economy as advertised or promised by the salesmen or as shown on the manufacturer's window sticker. [/align][/ul]
There are actually alot of negative environmental effects that hybrids will have in the future (with battery acid and stuff like that) if you really want to go "green" i would advise you to wait until we advance a but more with automotive technology, the hybrid is just a rough draft... its a start though! Anyways, just wanted to put that word out for you, but as for me I have been against the false marketing of hybrids since the beginning. Good luck with whatever you do!
LMAO, seems like you went and ripped that out from some oil companies website or something.

the torque that hybrids get from the electric motors is a ton, all you have to do is a search and electric hybrids are pretty dang good in all terms.

VW is coming out with a hybrid in a few years, they will be on sale in Europe later this year but wont hit the US for a few more.

If anything I say go get a staight out diesel, they will last an easy 500k before anything major needs to be done. And you can convert them to half VO or full on VOW, which is even better.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ronin005

ORIGINAL: Camdisco24

ORIGINAL: lebrult

We are looking to sell to go green (hybrid).

Lance

Lance, I know there is alot of hype about hybrids but not all of it is true. If you really love your disco I would keep it. It will last longer and have more personal value. But what ever floats your boat. On a side note here are a few facts for you to consider:


[ul][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles cost considerably more than conventional vehicles. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles get worse fuel mileage on the open highway because of the added weight of the battery bank and the lack of any energy regeneration. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles have a high maintenance cost. Battery replacement is a major expense. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicles generally have very small gasoline or diesel engines. Therefore, the air-conditioning system will place a high load on the tiny engine that will reduce the gas mileage drastically. [/align][*][align=left]Hybrid vehicle manufactures have tended to exaggerate the fuel economy. Many owners are disappointed when they cannot obtain the fuel economy as advertised or promised by the salesmen or as shown on the manufacturer's window sticker. [/align][/ul]

There are actually alot of negative environmental effects that hybrids will have in the future (with battery acid and stuff like that) if you really want to go "green" i would advise you to wait until we advance a but more with automotive technology, the hybrid is just a rough draft... its a start though! Anyways, just wanted to put that word out for you, but as for me I have been against the false marketing of hybrids since the beginning. Good luck with whatever you do!
LMAO, seems like you went and ripped that out from some oil companies website or something.

the torque that hybrids get from the electric motors is a ton, all you have to do is a search and electric hybrids are pretty dang good in all terms.

VW is coming out with a hybrid in a few years, they will be on sale in Europe later this year but wont hit the US for a few more.

If anything I say go get a staight out diesel, they will last an easy 500k before anything major needs to be done. And you can convert them to half VO or full on VOW, which is even better.
Get a clue and read some before buying.

Most current models of hybrids also score well in Consumer Reports'[/i] testing and are highly rated in CR's annual reliability and owner satisfaction surveys. But do hybrid vehicles really hold the potential to save the consumer money over the long haul?
To find the answer, Consumer Reports[/i] looked at all of the major ownership costs and financial benefits of six different hybrid vehicles -- a mix of sedans and sport-utility vehicles (SUVs).
In Consumer Reports'[/i] analysis, none of the six hybrids tested recovered its price premium in the first five years and 75,000 miles of ownership. In fact, the extra ownership costs over five years for those vehicles ranged from $3,700 to $13,300.
Even when the analysis was extended to a period of 10 years and 150,000 miles, it was not possible to recover the price premium for a hybrid vehicle.
Consumer Reports[/i] also found that the benefits and costs of hybrids vary significantly, depending on the model. Because of the wide range of hybrid vehicles available, it's especially important for consumers to look carefully at all aspects of the vehicle before buying.
The 2008 model year vehicles examined are the: Ford Escape Hybrid AWD, Honda Accord Hybrid, Honda Civic Hybrid, Lexus RX400h AWD, Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited AWD and the Toyota Prius.
The full report, titled "The dollars & sense of hybrids," is published in Consumer Reports[/i]' Annual April Auto Issue, which goes on sale beginning Tuesday, March 7.
The rising price of gasoline and concern over U.S. dependence on oil have generated a lot of interest in hybrids, and with good reason. They typically deliver the best fuel economy in their classes. The most fuel-efficient models can save the consumer about $660 in gasoline costs. Hybrids also emit less pollution.
Each gallon of gasoline not burned prevents the emission of 19 pounds of carbon dioxide, which many believe contributes to global warming. In some states, hybrid owners can even use special carpool lanes regardless of the number of occupants in the vehicle.
These benefits add up to an inviting package for many car buyers who are willing to pay a premium for a hybrid.
But for those who are considering buying a hybrid for purely financial reasons, the figures just don't add up.
Estimating the Total Ownership Costs
To estimate the various overall ownership costs of hybrids, Consumer Reports[/i] picked six current models that it had previously tested and totaled their major costs and savings over the first five years, the longest period for which reliable data on all the cost components are available.
Five years is also a typical period of car ownership. CR did the same thing for each model's closest conventional, gasoline-powered equivalent and then compared the two. (For its investigation, Consumer Reports[/i] assumed that all the vehicles were purchased in California, the leading market for hybrid sales.)
Consumer Reports[/i] factored the following into its calculations: the purchase price premiums for hybrids, the difference in sales tax, savings from hybrid federal tax credits, fuel savings from hybrids at the pump, the extra cost or savings in insurance premiums for hybrids, the extra maintenance cost or savings from hybrids, the extra depreciation cost, and extra financing cost.
After factoring in federal tax credits and fuel savings that are based on gas prices rising to $4 and then to $5 a gallon, CR's calculations show that the most cost-effective hybrids, the Honda Civic Hybrid and Toyota Prius, still cost $3,700 and $5,250 more than their all-gas peers (the Civic EX sedan and Corolla LE sedan, respectively) after five years.
Models with the highest cost difference -- the Honda Accord Hybrid, Lexus RX400h, and Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited -- ranged from $10,250 to $13,300 more.
 
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