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Old 09-18-2018, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Akdisco11
Last winter I rebuilt my 2003 with a 4.0 engine. I also had close to or boil-over issues. with temps ranging up to 217F. I changed everything possible (not the worst procedure during a major repair event) it turned out that bleeding system was the really the issue.

I raised the coolant tank above the engine to get the air out and that helped. However, driving the front end up on a snow bank (a curb may be enough) and bleeding the system made the difference. A buddy of mine who works on snow machines says they have to do it all the time to SKIDO's or they overheat.

Today the truck runs in traffic at 186-ish and sitting for a long time about 190-204. I've never heard the fan come on since.
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Great tip! Did you drive it up and bleed it by raising the tank again? And did you do it when it was hot or cold? Thanks!
 
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Bleed when cold!
 
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You don't need to raise the tank again. Just open the bleed screw and see if there is any room for even an ounce of coolant. When cold. Uphill parking is optional but parking nose up is what is being referenced here. Raising the reservoir is only for the first step of bleeding, as described in RAVE... the next step is chasing out the remaining air bubbles... the bleeder hole is the highest spot. if you park facing uphill it is even higher, let things settle overnight or longer and simply open the bleeder screw, inspect and add coolant right into the bleed screw hole until it will hold no more... Replace brass screw in hole... Drive your normal routine... Repeat the next morning/day until it is obvious you no longer have to top it up. No disturbing the reservoir at this point. No getting it up to temp and opening anything. Do this only when the engine is STONE COLD and repeat when it is again STONE COLD.
 

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Originally Posted by Dave03S
You don't need to raise the tank again. Just open the bleed screw and see if there is any room for even an ounce of coolant. When cold. Uphill parking is optional but parking nose up is what is being referenced here. Raising the reservoir is only for the first step of bleeding, as described in RAVE... the next step is chasing out the remaining air bubbles... the bleeder hole is the highest spot. if you park facing uphill it is even higher, let things settle overnight or longer and simply open the bleeder screw, inspect and add coolant right into the bleed screw hole until it will hold no more... Replace brass screw in hole... Drive your normal routine... Repeat the next morning/day until it is obvious you no longer have to top it up. No disturbing the reservoir at this point. No getting it up to temp and opening anything. Do this only when the engine is STONE COLD and repeat when it is again STONE COLD.
Thank you very much for this detailed description. It is really helpful to have explicit instructions like this.

 
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You mentioned getting a new temp sensor, did you put that in also?

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You mentioned getting a new temp sensor, did you put that in also?

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One of the thermostats arrived on Monday ahead of schedule so I was eager to get that in. The new temp sensor arrives today. Hopefully I can get that in soon.
 
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Originally Posted by Dave03S
You should be able to get 10 degrees cooler by checking for air in the bleed screw when its cold as described above.
I have done this and gotten about 5-7 degree cooler temps. I found out that I had leak at the lower thermostat hose due to a misaligned hose clamp and when I fixed that and did the "cold bleed screw top off method" I got the following temps:

Stock thermostat:
65mph: 216f
Idle: 220f-224f

180 degree Britpart thermostat: 180 degree Britpart thermostat:
(after initial bleed)

65mph: 198f
Idle: 200-207f

180 degree Britpart thermostat: 180 degree Britpart thermostat:
(after multi-morning cold bleed)

65mph: 192f
Idle: 198-204f


I am going to also try the following thermostats and will report back:
1. Discovery Soft Spring 82C 180F Thermostat PEL500110
2.https://www.lucky8llc.com/collection...emp-thermostat

Maybe these are the same thing, but we will see.
 
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Good stuff!
 
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Britpart Black 180F thermostat has served me well on many many D2’s and customer D2’s without a single issue.
 
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Originally Posted by Best4x4
Britpart Black 180F thermostat has served me well on many many D2’s and customer D2’s without a single issue.
Sounds good. Do you think that 204 is just a bit high at idle? I have seen others posts about low 190s at idle. Do you think I should replace my fan and clutch assembly? Thanks!
 


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