any ideas where to start...im just a few minutes from accidentally collecting insurance on this thing

 

Do you have power to the primary circuit of the fuel pump relay when
KOEO (key 2nd position)?

Download the RAVE. It has the fuel pump schematic in there. If you have power at the relay, start tracing the circuit back from the pump checking for power at every connection until you have power.

 

Please contact disco mike with your number for best results. PM him with your number and he will walk you threw a checklist. I cant put a value on his advice. He is your best bet to get this resolved quickly.

 

i talked to him a few times yesterday and tried calling him earlier and havent heard back from him yet...

now when i open the door the interior lights and the key ring are flashing...when i put the key in and turn it to the second position, the m and s lights flash along with the interior light...

 

Please don't ignore this - just DO IT.

You need to apply 12 volts DIRECTLY to the PUMP.
And, see if it runs.

This is basic troubleshooting 101 class.
NO jumping from thing to thing and screwing around...

Pull the pump.
Trace the wires from the PUMP Motor to the connector.
Make a drawing and get the colors correct.
Put the pump back into the tank - outside in the drive way.
Open the back door - get all the gas vapors out.

An hour later..
Run a wire from the "+" on the battery and the "-" into a normal extension cord.
Tie wires to the prongs of the plug - neatly and carefully.

Put a plug at the other end of the extension cord.
Get a VOM meter and determine the "+" and "-".

Get two alligator clips and clip the "-" to the fuel pump "-".
Clip "+" to the fuel pump "+".

Beware of sparks igniting fumes.

OK then is the pump now running??
If the pump is running, is there fuel pressure??

Now try to start the truck.

 

Ok the pump works...there's just no power getting to it...

 

Do you or do you not have power at the fuel pump relay with KOEO? This will determine whether you have a problem in the FP circuit or whether something else is keeping the ECM from sending power to the circuit.

If you do have power in the primary circuit (low amp side), then you have an open somewhere between the relay and the pump on the secondary (high-amp) circuit.

 

Nice!!

We are making progress!
OK pump works.

Pull the fuel pump relay.

VOM - 12V scale.
Key on.
Probe all the pins in the relay socket.
One pin has to be 12 volts always..
This is the supply - from the fuel pump fuse.

If there is NO 12 volts in that socket at all then we need to trace back and figure it out.

If there IS 12 volts in that socket - then the relay is not firing down.

So, here are two more things to troubleshoot:

1) Pull relay - look for 12 volts on any pin with the KEY on..
Is there 12 volts on any pin?

2) Put your hand on the relay. Have an assistant click the key off, then on and then off.

You should FEEL the relay clicking on and off.

Could be a bad relay.
You may be able to pop the case off of the relay and take a picture with your cell phone of the contacts.

If the contacts are pitted and full of brown/black carbon, then this may be an insulator.

 

Great work jfall!

 

Thanks for all the help, this is the best place to go for anything that has to do with rovers...

Ill get back with you guys in the morning...I ran out of daylight today