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Old 12-07-2023 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Extinct
Actually thats incorrect, a bad Ckps shuts off fuel, not spark. They do that so the engine is not hydrolockwd in a failure event.
Hmm ... Okay.

It was my understanding that no CKPS shut off both fuel and spark.

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Old 12-07-2023 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mo 3
I tried this and the fuel pump does run when I jump it and I have fuel pressure on the rail when I do it
In my mind, running on starting fluid indicates that all other systems are functioning b/c spark is present, just not fuel. If it's proven not to be CKPS then get a noid light to make sure the injectors are firing. Beyond that if they sat for a long time they may need cleaning however I think you'd get some amount of combustion even if it wouldn't start proper.
 
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Old 12-07-2023 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mln01
Hmm ... Okay.

It was my understanding that no CKPS shut off both fuel and spark.

Ya learn something new every day.
They keep the spark on to clear the cylinders just in case there is a leaking injector. I think starting on aerosol fluid suggest CkPS.
 
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Old 12-10-2023 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvlr
My first guess is the inertia switch needs to be reset. On the bulkhead at the back of the engine compartment.
I tried pressing it but it doesn’t feel like it moved
 
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Old 12-10-2023 | 05:38 PM
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sounds to me like this may be going on:
(from rave manual)
Anti-theft system
The BCU uses the driver's door key lock and unlock switches to activate and deactivate the security system. The
driver's door lock is also used for entering the EKA.
+ ALARM SYSTEM AND HORN, DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION, Description.
Immobilisation
For immobilisation, the BCU disables the starter motor relay. When the engine is cranking, the ECM looks for a coded
signal from the BCU. If the signal is not received within one second of cranking, the fuel supply to the engine is
stopped and the injectors are disabled
. This also prevents unburnt fuel from entering the catalyst
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Someone else correct me if I am wrong, but can't the BCU/ECU lose sync and cause this, requiring a nanocom or similar tool to re-sync them?
 
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Old 12-10-2023 | 05:43 PM
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So it sounds very much like a bad CKPS. Did you already replace it? Also, did you check your control circuit for the fuel pump relay? Did you try to start it with the fuel pump relay jumpered?
 
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Old 12-10-2023 | 05:58 PM
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Extinct is on to something here...if you jumper the fuel pump and it starts/runs, it is NOT what I stated above (or shouldn't be) as the imobilizer kills the pump AND the injectors. but if it still doesn't start/stay running, then might be what I was getting at...good test to narrow things down even more!
 

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Old 12-12-2023 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 99TEXASD2
sounds to me like this may be going on:
(from rave manual)


Someone else correct me if I am wrong, but can't the BCU/ECU lose sync and cause this, requiring a nanocom or similar tool to re-sync them?

wow that sounds about right especially seeing that it hasn’t run in I don’t know how long
 
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Old 12-12-2023 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mo 3
wow that sounds about right especially seeing that it hasn’t run in I don’t know how long
I have never had a BCU/ECU get out of sync, however you do need to sync the interior fusebox to the BCU/ECU. Have you changed any of that recently? Or perhaps the fusebox has failed.
 
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Old 12-13-2023 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Extinct
I have never had a BCU/ECU get out of sync, however you do need to sync the interior fusebox to the BCU/ECU. Have you changed any of that recently? Or perhaps the fusebox has failed.

I haven’t changed it out however the car has been sitting a long time w/o battery how do I sync those? I didn’t know that was a thing
 


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