Replace engine block, or just give up now?
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Hi all,
We bought a 99 Land Rover Discovery II at a public auction about 2 months ago... the engine blew up 2 blocks down the road.
After a number of conversations with family, friends and mechanics, we decided to attempt to rebuild the engine - there were no knocking noises or banging from the engine, so we assumed it was just the head gaskets...
We just found out from the machine shop that the block is warped beyond repair. Atlantic British said the factory that used to manufacture these blocks is no longer in business, and they don't have a block to sell.
Anyone know where I could get a reliable block? Or do I just cut my losses at this point and scrap it?![Frown](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/smilies/udbMv2o.png)
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We bought a 99 Land Rover Discovery II at a public auction about 2 months ago... the engine blew up 2 blocks down the road.
After a number of conversations with family, friends and mechanics, we decided to attempt to rebuild the engine - there were no knocking noises or banging from the engine, so we assumed it was just the head gaskets...
We just found out from the machine shop that the block is warped beyond repair. Atlantic British said the factory that used to manufacture these blocks is no longer in business, and they don't have a block to sell.
Anyone know where I could get a reliable block? Or do I just cut my losses at this point and scrap it?
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Thanks
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Warped block or warped head? Pleanty of both in the salvage yard, many are there because of head gaskets, so plan on re-doing those. That's about as cheap as it gets. From there you get into ones from a dismantler or someone parting out a wreck, to some used ones with a warranty. How much did you pay at auction?
Some auctions will not honor a sale that ends like that, and for those buying at the auction, always run engine as long as you can before making a bid, and check their policy on concealed damage. The auction I haunt wants (makes) buyers to disclose mechanical problems (needs a transmission, etc.).
Some auctions will not honor a sale that ends like that, and for those buying at the auction, always run engine as long as you can before making a bid, and check their policy on concealed damage. The auction I haunt wants (makes) buyers to disclose mechanical problems (needs a transmission, etc.).
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If it's egg shaped, chances are you're not going to be able to make them larger unless you go with a different company piston. The difference between an A and B piston is very small. A good shop could probably put larger pistons, but it would probably be cheaper to search for a used block. If the lower engine is that bad, the upper part is most likely warped also. These are all aluminum engines and prone to warping when overheated.
A crate engine is another option, but the wiring harness has to be altered to accommodate a new engine. With a crate engine, you could get something that uses regular gas instead of premium, and you have everything brand new.
The good thing about these vehicles is that the parts are not cheap and you can sell parts, get all of your money back (plus more), and have enough to buy a new car.
Having the pistons redone will probably cost a couple grand. Buying a new lower engine block can probably run around a grand, but if you have to pay someone else to do the work, that's a couple grand again. A crate engine will be couple grand, and a whole LR engine will be a few grand. No matter how you slice it, it may not be worth it if you have to pay someone else to do the labor.
A crate engine is another option, but the wiring harness has to be altered to accommodate a new engine. With a crate engine, you could get something that uses regular gas instead of premium, and you have everything brand new.
The good thing about these vehicles is that the parts are not cheap and you can sell parts, get all of your money back (plus more), and have enough to buy a new car.
Having the pistons redone will probably cost a couple grand. Buying a new lower engine block can probably run around a grand, but if you have to pay someone else to do the work, that's a couple grand again. A crate engine will be couple grand, and a whole LR engine will be a few grand. No matter how you slice it, it may not be worth it if you have to pay someone else to do the labor.
Last edited by Discovery SE7; 04-17-2012 at 12:11 PM. Reason: Misspelled a couple words and added more detail.
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come on now you have a 13-year old truck that you bought at a public auction that need a motor, it not hard dump it.
1. you have no history of this vechicle it could have been neglected it's whole life, 2 blocks would suggest that.
2. its going to cost you $2000-$3000 to replace the engine in a truck that you can buy for $2000-$3000, where the up side.
3. unless this is going to be your final purchase in life why in gods name would you put a $5000 engine (just the engine cost along) in something that from a public action.
having been in the buisness for a lot and lot of year i can tell you the only time a vehicle goes to a public auction is "THE ONWER NEVER WANTS TO SEE IT AGAIN"
thats why they go to thru the auction so cheap.
1. you have no history of this vechicle it could have been neglected it's whole life, 2 blocks would suggest that.
2. its going to cost you $2000-$3000 to replace the engine in a truck that you can buy for $2000-$3000, where the up side.
3. unless this is going to be your final purchase in life why in gods name would you put a $5000 engine (just the engine cost along) in something that from a public action.
having been in the buisness for a lot and lot of year i can tell you the only time a vehicle goes to a public auction is "THE ONWER NEVER WANTS TO SEE IT AGAIN"
thats why they go to thru the auction so cheap.