Discovery II Talk about the Land Rover Discovery II within.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Shutoff while off road

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-30-2013, 11:33 PM
MC04DII's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 468
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Shutoff while off road

So I tried to climb a steep hill today in low range. I got close to the crest and one of the front wheels came off the ground, so I backed out before it rolled over. Even with applying some brake, I rolled back down the hill pretty fast since it was so steep. It was still in low gear in drive. When I got to the bottom it had shut off. It took a couple abnormally long cranks to get it going again. No CELs or anything else though. Ran fine the rest the day. So what happened? My guess is either the engine got revved to high by being in low that the cpu couldn't keep up with fuel, or the transmission did a safety shutoff since it was in drive and moving so quickly backwards. Any thoughts?
 
  #2  
Old 03-30-2013, 11:40 PM
ZGPhoto's Avatar
Camel Trophy
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 4,533
Received 102 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

Stalled because you were in drive going backwards quickly? I've stalled autos before.
 
  #3  
Old 03-30-2013, 11:57 PM
MC04DII's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 468
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ZGPhoto
Stalled because you were in drive going backwards quickly? I've stalled autos before.
Exactly. I've never stalled an auto for this reason, so this is normal?
 
  #4  
Old 03-31-2013, 09:35 AM
Disco Mike's Avatar
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 25,707
Likes: 0
Received 99 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Your tranny did not cause the engine shut down, do you have a service engine light on, if so what are the fault code numbers. My initial idea is a possible enerita switch that may not have totally set it self.
 
  #5  
Old 03-31-2013, 09:42 AM
ZGPhoto's Avatar
Camel Trophy
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 4,533
Received 102 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

I'm not sure with the Disco, but I've stalled an auto subaru RS doing an ebrake slide.
 
  #6  
Old 03-31-2013, 09:47 AM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Winching
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

How low was the level of gas in the tank? I'm thinking that a low fuel level combined with a steep climb angle uncovered the pickup in the tank and it shut of due to lack of fuel. When you got to the bottom, the angle flattened out and the fuel pickup was covered again. Just a thought.
 
  #7  
Old 03-31-2013, 10:07 AM
MC04DII's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 468
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

No fault codes and runs fine now. It had over 3/4 of a tank. It did act like a fuel starvage after though. It took two long cranks to get it going, then it was stumbly for a second on idle. I revved it a few times like an old carb engine (which i know doesn't matter with efi) and it was fine. So I kept calm and rovered on .
 
  #8  
Old 03-31-2013, 10:38 AM
ZGPhoto's Avatar
Camel Trophy
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 4,533
Received 102 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MC04DII
No fault codes and runs fine now. It had over 3/4 of a tank. It did act like a fuel starvage after though. It took two long cranks to get it going, then it was stumbly for a second on idle. I revved it a few times like an old carb engine (which i know doesn't matter with efi) and it was fine. So I kept calm and rovered on .
Way of life!
 
  #9  
Old 03-31-2013, 11:13 AM
Spike555's Avatar
Team Owner
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Grand Rapids MI
Posts: 26,212
Likes: 0
Received 95 Likes on 72 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MC04DII
So I tried to climb a steep hill today in low range. I got close to the crest and one of the front wheels came off the ground, so I backed out before it rolled over. Even with applying some brake, I rolled back down the hill pretty fast since it was so steep. It was still in low gear in drive. When I got to the bottom it had shut off. It took a couple abnormally long cranks to get it going again. No CELs or anything else though. Ran fine the rest the day. So what happened? My guess is either the engine got revved to high by being in low that the cpu couldn't keep up with fuel, or the transmission did a safety shutoff since it was in drive and moving so quickly backwards. Any thoughts?
You stalled it by going backwards while still in drive.
The engine was still trying to move you forward but it was overruled by the weight of the truck and the wheels turning the transmission backwards.
If you were going fast enough you would have even spun the engine backwards and thats why it was hard to start and sputtered for a min or two.

If you take a auto trans car, drive it over 50mph, shift to neutral, shut the engine off, turn the key back on, drop it back into drive, the engine will start without using the key.
I've done it before on several cars when I was a kid.
 
  #10  
Old 03-31-2013, 01:45 PM
MC04DII's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 468
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spike555
You stalled it by going backwards while still in drive.
The engine was still trying to move you forward but it was overruled by the weight of the truck and the wheels turning the transmission backwards.
If you were going fast enough you would have even spun the engine backwards and thats why it was hard to start and sputtered for a min or two.

If you take a auto trans car, drive it over 50mph, shift to neutral, shut the engine off, turn the key back on, drop it back into drive, the engine will start without using the key.
I've done it before on several cars when I was a kid.
Ok, that's kinda what I was thinking. I guess worse case would be the timing chain jumping off track by the engine going backwards? Like I said though, it runs fine, so I suppose all is good.
 


Quick Reply: Shutoff while off road



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:57 AM.