Shuttle valve carnage (with pics)
You should never have to use a sealer on a brake line it only promotes future leaks. I would suggest you lube it with brake fluid as you do not want to contaminate the system. When you get to that point, go in a half turn and then out, just as if you were running a tap.once you get it running in and out take it apart and clean the threads.
The threads/nut should go in initially finger tight with no problems (it has a starting land to guide it). I always push the brake pipe down onto the seat first then engage the nut finger tight and finish tightening with a wrench. Use some engine lube oil on the nut if it's too sticky.
After more frustrating tinkering going nowhere, I finally decided to just torque it down and see what would happen. As you might expect, bad things happened. It spurted out brake fluid when I hit the brake.
After a little more loosening and retightening, I finally got it down in there pretty damn tight, and it seems to be holding for the moment. I suspect it might not hold after I bleed the brakes.
I'm seriously considering just getting a used unit at this point. What a nightmare.
After a little more loosening and retightening, I finally got it down in there pretty damn tight, and it seems to be holding for the moment. I suspect it might not hold after I bleed the brakes.
I'm seriously considering just getting a used unit at this point. What a nightmare.
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Good luck with your search, and your eventual Option A or Option B fix. And please don't drive the truck until you replace that modulator, lest that fitting blow loose and you become a 5000 pound missile with no brakes.
You're absolutely right. I'm replacing the modulator, as I think it's really the only safe way to go. I'm going to grab one from a local scrapyard and put in the new shuttle valve and seals I have, along with the Option B fix I've already wired up. We'll see.
After more frustrating tinkering going nowhere, I finally decided to just torque it down and see what would happen. As you might expect, bad things happened. It spurted out brake fluid when I hit the brake.
After a little more loosening and retightening, I finally got it down in there pretty damn tight, and it seems to be holding for the moment. I suspect it might not hold after I bleed the brakes.
I'm seriously considering just getting a used unit at this point. What a nightmare.
After a little more loosening and retightening, I finally got it down in there pretty damn tight, and it seems to be holding for the moment. I suspect it might not hold after I bleed the brakes.
I'm seriously considering just getting a used unit at this point. What a nightmare.
The problem being is the modulator bolt holes are large in the bodywork where the rubber mounts go and they rarely return to the exact same position. Good luck, it's a PITA.
Yeah, I had the modulator unbolted when first fitting the lines – I tried moving the line around at all angles, but for whatever reason it wanted to thread in two turns in cross-threaded and wouldn't go in any other way. I think there must have been some damage to the threads that I couldn't see.
The damage is done now, though, and I'm getting a new modulator.
The damage is done now, though, and I'm getting a new modulator.
It has looked fine every time I undid it and inspected. My feeling is that the steel of the brake line fitting is gouging out the aluminum of the modulator block.
To do a completely thorough job on this, of course, I should replace the brake line/fitting. What are the options there? I've never worked with flare tools, though I've seen them used, and I'm not sure how you'd go about splicing on a new brake fitting or if that'd be better/easier than replacing the whole line.
To do a completely thorough job on this, of course, I should replace the brake line/fitting. What are the options there? I've never worked with flare tools, though I've seen them used, and I'm not sure how you'd go about splicing on a new brake fitting or if that'd be better/easier than replacing the whole line.
Brief update: I've decided to order a new brake line (actually the cluster of three that go to the rear wheels and the LF wheel) for peace of mind. I know it'll be a pain to install in that weird bracket on the inner wheel well, but I think the $100 outlay is worth it. I realize I could make my own for less, but I'm too lazy. My only uncertainty at this point is whether the new modulator I'm getting actually works—fingers crossed on that one.


