Is swaping a 4.6 vs 4.0 rotating assmebly worth it?
We daily drove the 2002 4.0 and a 2004 4.6 for a couple years, and though there certainly is a difference in power between them, if you zoom out and put the power difference on a spectrum that includes more than just the two Discos, it's not anything meaningful. IMO. You might want to find a 4.6 being sold locally and give it a test drive to see for yourself?
Heads and block are the same for 4.0 vs 4.6. I put my old 4.6 Internals in a 4.0 block and everything worked. Pistons, rods, crank and cams are different between 4.0 and 4.6. I have read varying results on using 4.0 pistons in a 4.6. Some say its impossible, while others claim to have done it... Since the ECU between 4.0 and 4.6 are tuned differently, the car will run, but worse. You can reflash the ECU, but it would probably be easier to get a used one off of ebay.
When I rebuilt my 4.0 (and pinned the liners) I did a poor mans cam swap and put the 4.6L cam in it. seems like it has a little more pep, but clearly not like it would with a true aftermarket cam....but if anyone was wondering, it works just fine.
I'd consider looking at TWS Motors to source some parts. They're builds are extremely nice but really pricey, so not recommending them for a full build, but if you bought parts from them they would probably be happy to share info and recommendations. I know they work with Tornado Systems to do ECU re-flashes. You could probably pay them to send the ECU off and have it reprogrammed to be more suited to the 4.6 internals.
Having owned multiple 4.6 trucks and a 4.0 truck, I can definitely notice a difference but it is certainly not major. I can see how with a lift and armor any extra bit of power you can get would be nice. Would have been nice if they sold the 5 speed manual here in the US, that one extra ratio and less drivetrain loss from the torque converter would help acceleration a lot. I had a manual D1 and it was notable nicer and quicker on the road than a D1 with the 4 speed auto.
If I was in your shoes (and had some cash to throw at it), I would go with the 4.6 internals, reprogram the ECU, and consider a better exhaust header or at least a cat back system to take advantage of the reprogramming. I would also ensure taking into consideration that the 4.6 internals will generate more heat and pressure. The oil cooler from a 4.0 truck is a nice to have on a 4.6.
Having owned multiple 4.6 trucks and a 4.0 truck, I can definitely notice a difference but it is certainly not major. I can see how with a lift and armor any extra bit of power you can get would be nice. Would have been nice if they sold the 5 speed manual here in the US, that one extra ratio and less drivetrain loss from the torque converter would help acceleration a lot. I had a manual D1 and it was notable nicer and quicker on the road than a D1 with the 4 speed auto.
If I was in your shoes (and had some cash to throw at it), I would go with the 4.6 internals, reprogram the ECU, and consider a better exhaust header or at least a cat back system to take advantage of the reprogramming. I would also ensure taking into consideration that the 4.6 internals will generate more heat and pressure. The oil cooler from a 4.0 truck is a nice to have on a 4.6.
I'd consider looking at TWS Motors to source some parts. They're builds are extremely nice but really pricey, so not recommending them for a full build, but if you bought parts from them they would probably be happy to share info and recommendations. I know they work with Tornado Systems to do ECU re-flashes. You could probably pay them to send the ECU off and have it reprogrammed to be more suited to the 4.6 internals.
Having owned multiple 4.6 trucks and a 4.0 truck, I can definitely notice a difference but it is certainly not major. I can see how with a lift and armor any extra bit of power you can get would be nice. Would have been nice if they sold the 5 speed manual here in the US, that one extra ratio and less drivetrain loss from the torque converter would help acceleration a lot. I had a manual D1 and it was notable nicer and quicker on the road than a D1 with the 4 speed auto.
If I was in your shoes (and had some cash to throw at it), I would go with the 4.6 internals, reprogram the ECU, and consider a better exhaust header or at least a cat back system to take advantage of the reprogramming. I would also ensure taking into consideration that the 4.6 internals will generate more heat and pressure. The oil cooler from a 4.0 truck is a nice to have on a 4.6.
Having owned multiple 4.6 trucks and a 4.0 truck, I can definitely notice a difference but it is certainly not major. I can see how with a lift and armor any extra bit of power you can get would be nice. Would have been nice if they sold the 5 speed manual here in the US, that one extra ratio and less drivetrain loss from the torque converter would help acceleration a lot. I had a manual D1 and it was notable nicer and quicker on the road than a D1 with the 4 speed auto.
If I was in your shoes (and had some cash to throw at it), I would go with the 4.6 internals, reprogram the ECU, and consider a better exhaust header or at least a cat back system to take advantage of the reprogramming. I would also ensure taking into consideration that the 4.6 internals will generate more heat and pressure. The oil cooler from a 4.0 truck is a nice to have on a 4.6.
Before you spend all your time and money have you tried lighter wheels and/or tires? My D2 still has stock gearing but I did rebuild my 4.0 to 4.6 w/crower cam and when I run steel wheels with 33in MT its a lumbering, slow beast compared to running LR alloy wheels and good AT tires.
Before you spend all your time and money have you tried lighter wheels and/or tires? My D2 still has stock gearing but I did rebuild my 4.0 to 4.6 w/crower cam and when I run steel wheels with 33in MT its a lumbering, slow beast compared to running LR alloy wheels and good AT tires.
I don't drive our disco, my better half drives the disco. When it went down with a slipped liner I installed the 4.6 internals and cam into her 99 4.0 block.
Also did new rings, bearings (cam and crank /rod) and lifters.
Once back on the road she had no idea what I did other than fix the liner tick but the report was "wow this is faster and I'm getting better fuel milage"
Also did new rings, bearings (cam and crank /rod) and lifters.
Once back on the road she had no idea what I did other than fix the liner tick but the report was "wow this is faster and I'm getting better fuel milage"


