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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by primussucks
-No dipstick for the transmission (DII)... How stupid is this one... save $0.50 on a tube?
I recently found out there is a fix for that, you install a DI transmission oil sump or a P-38 GEMS transmission oil sump.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZGPhoto
I did, I was responding to Taylor's comment that he referred to the D1 being the last true offroader. I firmly believe an 04 DII will outperform a D1, an LR3 will out perform a DII, and an LR4 will outperform an LR3.
You sure about that? Maybe in some conditions, when everything is functioning perfectly.

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Open the doors, drain and refill the fluids, blow out the cylinders and you're good to go.
There isn't a DII, DIII or DIV that you can say the same about.
 

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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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You can't really compare a 200TDi/300TDi Disco engine to anything we got here. We got junk V8s, no V8 in history is capable of what the 200TDi/300TDi Disco and Defenders were capable of. I'm referring to vehicles we got here, not 200/300Tdis, TD5s, TDV6s.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ZGPhoto
You can't really compare a 200TDi/300TDi Disco engine to anything we got here. We got junk V8s, no V8 in history is capable of what the 200TDi/300TDi Disco and Defenders were capable of. I'm referring to vehicles we got here, not 200/300Tdis, TD5s, TDV6s.

I still wouldnt say that a DII is more capable then a D1, or an LR3 is more capable the a DII. Although on paper, they might be, but what happens in the real world is far different then what happens on paper. The newer vehicles may have fancier electronic gizmo whats, but the more technology you add, the more there is to go wrong. I think a perfect example of this theory is, I have had my D1 up the the bottom of my seats in water for about a minute once. Finally got out of the water, checked the diffs, engine and tranny for water, none was there so I drove off. In a DII, your tranny ECU went out a few seconds after the water came in , now your stuck in the water, and after waiting 15 minutes to get pulled out your diff's are full of water, and most likely your engine and tranny too, along with your tranny ECU. Now your screwed.

Another example. What happens when your airbag suspension fails when your 40 miles away from the nearest road, and a couple hundred from the nearest city?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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Well, I was talking about any that are available anywhere. You couldn't do that with anything that's in any DII's, DIII's or DIV's anywhere.
I didn't see anything in the thread saying, "what do you not like about NA spec DII's?"
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 12:02 AM
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haha well this forum is based in the NADA so I figured we were talking about that. Either way, I think water crossings will never be a measure of a vehicle's ability. Also you never should compare vehicles if one of them is defective or not running properly, how is that fair? I've driven a Ser. IIA, III, 86 110, 2009 D110, 2012 D110, 97 D1, 2002/2003 DIIs, not sure the year on the LR3 I drove, and a 2012 LR4. The 2012 D110 was a close second, but the LR4 out performed any of those vehicles hands down. Locking rear diff, locking center, and TC locking the front wheelspin. I did an owner's day experience at the LR Experience in Vermont with a few RRs, RRSs, LR4, NAS D90, and my truck. The D90 and my truck were the only ones running off road tires, we got walked on by the newer vehicles on every part of the trail. I'm not saying I'd go out and buy one, just that they're certainly more capable vehicles stock compared to the other older LR vehicles.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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cooling system sucks, sunroof and headliners suck and the fact the rear window is stationary, it would have been to haul stuff if the window opened.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ZGPhoto
haha well this forum is based in the NADA so I figured we were talking about that. Either way, I think water crossings will never be a measure of a vehicle's ability. Also you never should compare vehicles if one of them is defective or not running properly, how is that fair? I've driven a Ser. IIA, III, 86 110, 2009 D110, 2012 D110, 97 D1, 2002/2003 DIIs, not sure the year on the LR3 I drove, and a 2012 LR4. The 2012 D110 was a close second, but the LR4 out performed any of those vehicles hands down. Locking rear diff, locking center, and TC locking the front wheelspin. I did an owner's day experience at the LR Experience in Vermont with a few RRs, RRSs, LR4, NAS D90, and my truck. The D90 and my truck were the only ones running off road tires, we got walked on by the newer vehicles on every part of the trail. I'm not saying I'd go out and buy one, just that they're certainly more capable vehicles stock compared to the other older LR vehicles.
Prior to my d2 I drove a rr sport.
My analogy between the two is.

The Sport (and lr3/4 for that matter) is like a point and shoot camera.
The Disco is like an slr.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike555
I recently found out there is a fix for that, you install a DI transmission oil sump or a P-38 GEMS transmission oil sump.
You referring to my post on the other forum?
I haven't tried it yet, but planning on it.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by primussucks
Prior to my d2 I drove a rr sport.
My analogy between the two is.

The Sport (and lr3/4 for that matter) is like a point and shoot camera.
The Disco is like an slr.
Are you referring to the fact that it does everything for you? Or that you can't modify it as much?
 
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