Service, outside of ones own garage, appears to be a problem for many in this forum, and it recently became so for me. We lived and worked in and around Detroit for almost 40 years, with a garage-full of non-domestic automobiles, and finding somebody to do the work was a no-brainer. Moving back to the North brought that problem into focus for me.

When we moved here after retirement, about ten years ago, I took my Porsche to one of three local shops that I had identified, just for an introductory visit. When I happened to tell the proprietor that I was looking for a Discovery, he said "I have just one word for you - don't. We love to see Land Rovers on the road, because we know that we'll see them in the shop before long." His best advise was "buy a Toyota". Not what I think of as a positive attitude and not someone to whom I want to give my money.

Within the year I had sold the Porsche and found a sweet low-mileage 2000 Disco in the hands of a private seller down-state. Bringing her home, I now had two options for outside service and eventually found the right guy in another shop. Unfortunately, he quit the shop and moved about 20 miles away. It's odd that I would have thought nothing of driving 20 miles for service when I lived the City, but for reasons that I don't understand, it's an inconvenience for me here. Maybe I haven't quite adjusted.

So, I'm going to take Christine's advice and try her favorite. If that's the right place, I'll do whatever is reasonable to help them stay in business. If that means paying a little extra for good work, so be it. Fortunately, I can still do much of the work myself, after 50 or 60 years of collecting tools.

By the way, Brian, in all of those years in Detroit we were never shot, stabbed or raped. We did, however, have to sit through a few too many Lions games, and a little urban crime might have been a less painful experience.

 

Does this include "at"?

Just messing with ya...lol.


Gave up on those bums years ago, and haven't watched any NFL games since the kneeling crap started.

Hope you adjust to your new digs soon...and you have a good size shovel...cause its coming.

Brian.

 

S&*T or Snow?

 

The last time I was in Detroit was over 7 years ago when my husband and I had to attend an immigration meeting at one of the Federal offices downtown. We drove down in the Rover, had reservations at some nondescript motel, close to downtown, (I think it was a Red Roof Inn) which turned out to be a 'rent by the hour' place with cigarette ashes on the phone and me calling the front desk to change rooms about 10 minutes after we arrived. The second room wasn't much better.. we huddled together watching the news, listening to reports of gun shots at a gas station at the corner of 'such and such'. It was hard to fall asleep! After our appointment we decided to visit Pewabic Pottery only to pull into the parking lot and see a woman in badged uniform patrolling the little place. She escorted us up to the door and unlocked it to let us in!! The place was beautiful but the memory of the security escort made a lasting impression on me. It wasn't until we left the place and saw the fine line between Grosse Pointe and the Ghetto that we understood where we were. Burnt out dwellings, busted windows, dilapidated homes and graffiti peppered the neighborhood we drove through.

My family is originally from Detroit, my grandfather and great grandfather were both patent attorneys for GM and were fully involved with the community until they moved up north permanently in the late 60s. I can only imagine what Detroit used to be like based on their stories and photos of that bygone era. It's unfortunate that Detroit took so many hits over the years but I'm excited to hear of new growth and rehabilitation that is occurring as we speak. I think there are a lot of opportunities for those that want to rebuild it to a new glory and help it thrive again.

I'd entertain traveling down that way again I may not drive the Rover but.. yeah, there are a lot of cool things in the 'D'.

 

Happy!

Swung over early this morning to pick up my ride at the shop. Throttle body is working as it should, new overflow reservoir installed, new coolant hoses and I feel like a new woman with wheels Charged for 2 hours of labor - satisfied!

 

Just throwing my 2 cents in for the bypass camp. I bypassed mine after it started leaking 5 years ago. I live in Canada and It goes below zero often in the winter. I've never had any issues with freezing. These engines heat uno so quick and I actually run a cold air intake on mine.....which in the winter is sucking engine from under the hood.

 

Nice one KD .......... result, hopefully no other issues will arise

Shame about the D, I've been watching it take a dive for years. Onetime the greatest motor manufacturing city in the world. Good music came out of the D like Motown etc.

 

That is why we call it "Detroilet"

 

Yep I've got a lot of friends with D2's in cold climates and not a single one of them has ever had a D2 Throttle body stick. The spring tension on those things are not something I'd call flimsy. I also have several friends with Hummer H3 Alpha's (5.3L All Aluminum LS3 Engines which DO NOT come equipped with a throttle body heater) and not a single stuck throttle body due to the cold...

The only way I see it happening is if the throttle body isn't clean, and it "could" stick due to the oil/debris build up, or if you had weak/broken springs, or a sticking throttle cable (which could stick regardless of the temp).

To each their own on the bypass or repair situation, but here in TX I don't need a weak link in the cooling system. I also properly bypass mine by not just placing bolts in the hoses. I take a new 5/16 coolant hose from the intake to the reservoir and I then slide a spark plug wire boot heat protecting shield over it. There is a good amount a flow from the intake to the reservoir and just sticking bolts in the hoses deletes that extra bit of coolant flow.

The 04 I recently bought will be getting the same treatment once I get around to working on it after all this Harvey stuff is under control.

 

Coolant exits the front end of the upper intake via three routes - the manifold outlet pipe that is something like 1-1/4" and runs to the radiator, the heater inlet pipe that is maybe 3/4", and the throttle body line that is 5/16". Clearly the bulk of the coolant is going to the radiator and the heater and even if judged to be "a good amount of flow from the intake to the reservoir" I note that it goes to the reservoir and not to the radiator or heater. Granted some small amount of cooling occurs for the coolant that routes through the reservoir but that's not its purpose.

Plugging the TBH lines with bolts is just fine.