LR2 Talk about the Land Rover LR2 within.

Burning power steering fluid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 16, 2024 | 01:16 PM
  #1  
Nick Wetz's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
4wd High
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
Likes: 2
Default Burning power steering fluid

After I recently replaced the water pump, power steering pump, pulleys and belt, my LR2 started "losing" power steering fluid. After filling it a few times, a new problem developed. It started smoking really bad from the engine compartment when making a hard turn. I found a pinhole in the exhaust manifold where it was squirting out when my wife would turn the wheel really hard. I can't find any leaks anywhere else, but what stumps me is how power steering fluid is making it into the exhaust in the first place. I read online about a pressure valve on/for the power steering pump that assists in hard turning, but that was for a different vehicle. It said something about possibly leaking into the vacuum lines. I can't find anything about the LR2. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as now it has gotten so bad that it blows nasty smoke into the cabin air system sometimes when hard turning.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2024 | 10:31 PM
  #2  
flybd5's Avatar
TReK
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 631
From: Massachusetts
Default

Please be so kind as to state full info on your car, like year, mileage, etc.

This is the power steering system on a 2008-2012 LR2 with the petrol engine. If you look at where all the hoses and pipes travel, you will see it's not hard for fluid to get to the exhaust manifold. I am not saying this is where your problem is, but pipe 6 is the high pressure feed pipe for the system into the pump, and it passes right over the engine.

A clue, Sherlock...

If you changed the pump, you may need to check and see if you reinstalled that pipe correctly. Good luck.


 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2024 | 04:06 PM
  #3  
Nick Wetz's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
4wd High
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
Likes: 2
Default

It's a 2010 with the 3.2 gasoline engine. It has around 117,000 miles. There's only one thing I possibly did wrong. The O-ring on the high pressure line where it connects to the pump was deteriorated and broken in half. I replaced it with a random O-ring that came in an assorted pack. I couldn't find a source for an exact replacement. The one I put on was just slightly thicker than the one that came off, but to me that was possibly a good thing, since it might make a better seal. It doesn't leak from the connection there. The only leak I've found isn't even a leak. From what it looked like to me, it actually squirts out from the inside of the exhaust manifold through a tiny pinhole, and only when turning the wheel pretty hard. That just makes no sense to me. I put some high temp exhaust putty over the hole, but that obviously didn't work, since the problem got worse. I haven't been back under it since then to see what it looks like now. We've had some cold days and some wet days around here lately. Thank you for the diagram. As I said, any help is appreciated.
 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2024 | 05:30 PM
  #4  
flybd5's Avatar
TReK
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 631
From: Massachusetts
Default

You said you replaced the power steering pump. Where did you get the replacement unit? Page 550 of the service manual shows how to do a power steering system pressure test. It requires special tools that are listed on that page.

I'm trying to think what would cause this, and I keep coming back to the high pressure hose, but the reason why I ask where you got the pump is that it may have a faulty pressure relief valve. It is supposed to relieve pressure when the steering is turned hard either way. How a failure of that valve would cause any fluid to enter the exhaust manifold is beyond me.

This is the functional diagram of the power steering system.


The pressure relief valve is item 6. This is the description of its operation from the service manual:

When the engine is started the power steering pump draws fluid from the reservoir into the low pressure suction line. The
fluid passes through the pump and emerges as pressurized fluid at the outlet port. The high pressure hose passes the
pressurized fluid to the steering gear valve unit.

If no steering effort is applied, there is minimal restriction within the system and the supply pressure from the pump is
low. Minimal pressure is applied, via the valve unit, to each side of the piston in the hydraulic cylinder and the full flow
from the power steering pump returns to the reservoir via the fluid cooler.

When steering effort is applied in either direction, the return flow of fluid to the reservoir is restricted by the valve unit,
causing the supply pressure from the pump to increase. The pressurized fluid is directed by the valve unit to the applicable
side of the piston in the hydraulic cylinder, providing the power assistance required to reduce the steering effort. Fluid
displaced from the low pressure side of the cylinder is returned via the valve unit and fluid cooler to the reservoir. The fluid
cooler reduces the fluid temperature improving fluid performance and also prolongs the life of hoses and seals in the
system.
 

Last edited by flybd5; Dec 17, 2024 at 08:02 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2024 | 05:56 PM
  #5  
Nick Wetz's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
4wd High
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
Likes: 2
Default

The pump came from Ebay, and I've read somewhere about someone replacing a power steering pump with a new unit that was actually faulty. Perhaps that is the issue. Also, I believe that valve you mentioned is what I read about, saying that somehow it allowed the fluid to get sucked into the vacuum lines, which allowed it to enter the exhaust somehow. Makes no sense to me, but I'm not a professional mechanic. I appreciate you trying to help me figure this out. I'll take a look at it soon and update anything new that I've found.
 
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2024 | 07:20 AM
  #6  
ThorInc's Avatar
Winching
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 571
Likes: 165
Default

I bought my replacement PS pump from LR. At the time, the cost/price savings wasn't significant for me to look elsewhere for OEM.
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2024 | 03:58 PM
  #7  
p_gill's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 450
Likes: 336
Default

If you disconnect the high pressure line and you don't replace the O-ring then the assembly is know to leak.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic39...light=lr009387



Serpentine Belt Replacement Volvo S80 V70 XC70 XC60 3.2 and Land Rover LR2
__________________________________________________ _______________
OE PARTS LIST-----------------------Land Rover Part #---Volvo Part #
Serpentine Belt-----------------------LR003570-----------31251046
Tensioner-----------------------------LR004667------------31401286
Idler Pulley---------------------------LR006076------------31401193
O-ring for Power steering pump-----LR009387-----------
Overdrive pulley----------------------LR005993-----------31316803
__________________________________________________ ________________
OEM Substitute Parts
Continental Belt-------------CON-6K1200
INA Tensioner--------------INA-5340324100
FEBI Idler Pulley-----------FEB-37515
INA Overdrive pulley---------INA-5350195100


Good luck

Paul

​​​​​​​
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2024 | 04:00 PM
  #8  
p_gill's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 450
Likes: 336
Default

you can get it from Volvo also


I do recommend changing the O-ring

For me I use the Land Rover part because I was already buying some Land Rover parts

LR009387 O-ring for power steering pump (Volvo Part# 31202809)

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/fo...009387#p518372

Take care

Paul


 
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2024 | 06:58 AM
  #9  
guy's Avatar
guy
Recovery Vehicle
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 957
Likes: 214
From: Ottawa, Canada
Default

emphasis on using the right sized o-ring! And the pressure test!
 
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2024 | 02:52 PM
  #10  
flybd5's Avatar
TReK
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 2,152
Likes: 631
From: Massachusetts
Default

The incorrect o-ring is indeed an item to address, but it doesn't explain how the PS fluid would get into the exhaust manifold. If the o-ring was so bad the fluid would be visible at the connection point.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:08 PM.