Head gasket job Questions
TReK
Joined: Jul 2017
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Well guys. I feel sick.
I just got under the Rover to check and make sure everything is ok with the Crank Position sensor due to a no start issue, and lo and behold. The Driver's Side Head gasket is leaking oil back by cylinders 5 and 7.
I am not sure what to do to be honest.
I just got under the Rover to check and make sure everything is ok with the Crank Position sensor due to a no start issue, and lo and behold. The Driver's Side Head gasket is leaking oil back by cylinders 5 and 7.
I am not sure what to do to be honest.
That sucks!
Really feelin your pain on that one man.
II think I'de go APR studs and cometic gaskets.
My issues shouldn't cause me to pull the heads again(shouldn't, but you know how that goes).
But I've been debating on apr and cometic for a few days now. Your awful post really has me leaning towards it now.
I hate hearing this almost as much as you do!
I can't ever remember hearing of such a simple engine being so much trouble. I love the D2...and hate the engine, for several reasons.
Oh for money to burn on an LS swap.
****!
That sucks!
Really feelin your pain on that one man.
II think I'de go APR studs and cometic gaskets.
My issues shouldn't cause me to pull the heads again(shouldn't, but you know how that goes).
But I've been debating on apr and cometic for a few days now. Your awful post really has me leaning towards it now.
I hate hearing this almost as much as you do!
I can't ever remember hearing of such a simple engine being so much trouble. I love the D2...and hate the engine, for several reasons.
Oh for money to burn on an LS swap.
That sucks!
Really feelin your pain on that one man.
II think I'de go APR studs and cometic gaskets.
My issues shouldn't cause me to pull the heads again(shouldn't, but you know how that goes).
But I've been debating on apr and cometic for a few days now. Your awful post really has me leaning towards it now.
I hate hearing this almost as much as you do!
I can't ever remember hearing of such a simple engine being so much trouble. I love the D2...and hate the engine, for several reasons.
Oh for money to burn on an LS swap.
Last edited by CollieRover; Aug 15, 2018 at 05:31 PM.
The good news is that there is no indication that the passenger side is leaking at all. It's bone dry around the outside. That is at least a good thing.
The only things I can think of are during install I somehow shifted the head gasket while seating it, did not get a stud or two in the whole way, or I did not get the head torqued down properly. I was really deliberate, but mistakes happen. I originally had all of the studs in, and of course, that won't allow the head to go on while in vehicle. Probably something went wrong at that point. Maybe I did not lubricate the washers enough, I used the ARP thread lubricant for the studs so it should have worked.
The annoying thing about it is that the drivers side HG wasn't leaking before I did this job. The passenger side was. I'm right back where I effing started.
That said, this is going to be a much smaller job than the first time. Cometic gaskets on their way, and giving Mahle Rocker Cover gaskets a shot as Summit Racing had them.
The only things I can think of are during install I somehow shifted the head gasket while seating it, did not get a stud or two in the whole way, or I did not get the head torqued down properly. I was really deliberate, but mistakes happen. I originally had all of the studs in, and of course, that won't allow the head to go on while in vehicle. Probably something went wrong at that point. Maybe I did not lubricate the washers enough, I used the ARP thread lubricant for the studs so it should have worked.
The annoying thing about it is that the drivers side HG wasn't leaking before I did this job. The passenger side was. I'm right back where I effing started.
That said, this is going to be a much smaller job than the first time. Cometic gaskets on their way, and giving Mahle Rocker Cover gaskets a shot as Summit Racing had them.
Last edited by CollieRover; Aug 15, 2018 at 05:33 PM.
TReK
Joined: Jul 2017
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The good news is that there is no indication that the passenger side is leaking at all. It's bone dry around the outside. That is at least a good thing.
The only things I can think of are during install I somehow shifted the head gasket while seating it, did not get a stud or two in the whole way, or I did not get the head torqued down properly. I was really deliberate, but mistakes happen. I originally had all of the studs in, and of course, that won't allow the head to go on while in vehicle. Probably something went wrong at that point. Maybe I did not lubricate the washers enough, I used the ARP thread lubricant for the studs so it should have worked.
The annoying thing about it is that the drivers side HG wasn't leaking before I did this job. The passenger side was. I'm right back where I effing started.
That said, this is going to be a much smaller job than the first time. Cometic gaskets on their way, and giving Mahle Rocker Cover gaskets a shot as Summit Racing had them.
The only things I can think of are during install I somehow shifted the head gasket while seating it, did not get a stud or two in the whole way, or I did not get the head torqued down properly. I was really deliberate, but mistakes happen. I originally had all of the studs in, and of course, that won't allow the head to go on while in vehicle. Probably something went wrong at that point. Maybe I did not lubricate the washers enough, I used the ARP thread lubricant for the studs so it should have worked.
The annoying thing about it is that the drivers side HG wasn't leaking before I did this job. The passenger side was. I'm right back where I effing started.
That said, this is going to be a much smaller job than the first time. Cometic gaskets on their way, and giving Mahle Rocker Cover gaskets a shot as Summit Racing had them.
Good deal man
Looking forward to hearing how those gaskets are...and for it to not leak!
Cometic has tech support so I am going to prolly talk to them prior to install, just to be safe about install.
I talked to the derale guy about 12 times.
Mudding
Joined: Feb 2012
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From: Da Windycity
Collie,
I hate to hear this news. I've been lurking on this thread and it's been a good read of information especially the machine shop. Thanks! I plan on a tear down in the coming weeks to replace my head gaskets. I also decided on ARP head bolts. I picked them up from Lucky 8 and in speaking with them noted the torque values to be 20/40/80lbs and normal bolt sequence. Did you torque to 70lbs? 10lbs isnt much but perhaps just re torquing the head is worth a shot.
I hate to hear this news. I've been lurking on this thread and it's been a good read of information especially the machine shop. Thanks! I plan on a tear down in the coming weeks to replace my head gaskets. I also decided on ARP head bolts. I picked them up from Lucky 8 and in speaking with them noted the torque values to be 20/40/80lbs and normal bolt sequence. Did you torque to 70lbs? 10lbs isnt much but perhaps just re torquing the head is worth a shot.
Collie,
I hate to hear this news. I've been lurking on this thread and it's been a good read of information especially the machine shop. Thanks! I plan on a tear down in the coming weeks to replace my head gaskets. I also decided on ARP head bolts. I picked them up from Lucky 8 and in speaking with them noted the torque values to be 20/40/80lbs and normal bolt sequence. Did you torque to 70lbs? 10lbs isnt much but perhaps just re torquing the head is worth a shot.
I hate to hear this news. I've been lurking on this thread and it's been a good read of information especially the machine shop. Thanks! I plan on a tear down in the coming weeks to replace my head gaskets. I also decided on ARP head bolts. I picked them up from Lucky 8 and in speaking with them noted the torque values to be 20/40/80lbs and normal bolt sequence. Did you torque to 70lbs? 10lbs isnt much but perhaps just re torquing the head is worth a shot.
The Passenger side is fine, and that one I torqued to 70. The Drivers Side to 72. Who knows. i don't think that has anything to do with it, I don't think the head seated well enough. This time it is going on for a test fit, the the gasket, then then the head. I am going to call ARP Tech support and have them give me their thoughts on the seating process.
I have taken notes etc., so if you want a list of steps I took including socket sizes, tools etc., let me know. I can email it to you. Just PM me.
I am updating it this time.
