10 vs 11.4?
#21
Yes it is. Just because the bigger screen breaks the continuity of the lines of the cross car beam doesnt mean that its bad, it only means that the design has a different characteristic. Overlapping is a valid and flattering design as long as the overlapping is done with proper proportion and scale, in this case, i think JLR designers did a great job accomplishing that.
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Chief65 (08-06-2021)
#22
Maybe the icon location is customizable. Not sure... but moving it to the left sidebar would help immensely, I haven't messed around with the pivi-pro's customization options very much yet tbf. Edit: I was in fact able to place the camera Icon on the left sidebar today. It's a little tricky but it's possible and makes it much easier to reach. You do have to replace one of the three default icons on the sidebar to do it though, I think i got rid of the one for the phone. There's already a large phone tile on the screen and a think there's a physical phone button on the steering wheel so i can do without it on the sidebar.
Having the screen any further away though would not be good for usability IMO, like vents for example. I don't know that I've even touched one yet, it certainly wouldn't have been while actively driving, they're even further away than the screen obviously. With that being said I wouldn't want to be cramped up close to the dashboard because my legs are long and us long-legged folks need high bench-type or captains type seats and longish extension of the steering column travel to sit comfortably, not far away seating, higher seating. The Defender does a pretty good job of that. Still not perfect like an old cargo van I used to drive years ago but much better seating than most.
Last edited by Chief65; 08-07-2021 at 04:15 PM.
#23
I have the 11.4 as well, it's a no brainer upgrade. I see what people are saying about the design, but in person with it turned on it honestly makes the old one look dated and imho only enhances the design. Also note that the 11.4 has much smaller bezels and comes across as being super thin due to how they did the edges.
Agreed.
Full screen mode navigation on the 11.4 validates fully my decision of opting for it!
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#24
Hi guys,
I am new to Land Rover. They aren't the most popular in India. As a matter of fact I have only seen 2 Defenders on the road till now. They dont have a lot of them because its literally a lot of money to buy one. My SE is about 150,000 USD. Given the economics of our pay scales, the defender is even more dearer and hence no one buys them here.
The dilemma that puts us under here is that the sales people are not aware of anything and are pretty useless. So, I am just booking my 110 SE today. I don't think my dealer gave me an option. Having read the views here, I was wondering if you guys can share real pictures of how the bigger screen looks.
Thanks
Siddharth
I am new to Land Rover. They aren't the most popular in India. As a matter of fact I have only seen 2 Defenders on the road till now. They dont have a lot of them because its literally a lot of money to buy one. My SE is about 150,000 USD. Given the economics of our pay scales, the defender is even more dearer and hence no one buys them here.
The dilemma that puts us under here is that the sales people are not aware of anything and are pretty useless. So, I am just booking my 110 SE today. I don't think my dealer gave me an option. Having read the views here, I was wondering if you guys can share real pictures of how the bigger screen looks.
Thanks
Siddharth
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gdyear78 (08-07-2021)
#25
Both screens look good to me. Bigger is better for sure. Every car I've bought with some infotainment tech has been obsolete in about 3 years so I've long since stopped caring about such things in a car.
Hardware is where I used up my budget. Granted a couple of tanks of gas extra for an extra ~8 square inches of screen is no biggie. Just seems like a needless upsell to me. Adds nothing to the truck's capabilities or comfort. For an additional tank of gas I'll get the rear recovery eyes.
I'll still end up plugging my iphone in and using it as my interface regardless.
To each their own of course. I just don't view it, as some suggested, as a no brainer upgrade. In a model or two it will be standard. I reckon technological redundancy costs will outpace the revenue from the bigger screen upsell. A 14" screen will feature thereafter. Either way, at resell point it will not feature as a cost variable.
Hardware is where I used up my budget. Granted a couple of tanks of gas extra for an extra ~8 square inches of screen is no biggie. Just seems like a needless upsell to me. Adds nothing to the truck's capabilities or comfort. For an additional tank of gas I'll get the rear recovery eyes.
I'll still end up plugging my iphone in and using it as my interface regardless.
To each their own of course. I just don't view it, as some suggested, as a no brainer upgrade. In a model or two it will be standard. I reckon technological redundancy costs will outpace the revenue from the bigger screen upsell. A 14" screen will feature thereafter. Either way, at resell point it will not feature as a cost variable.
#26
If you’re referring to the PiviPro, an OTA update earlier this year markedly improved system responsiveness when switching between menus.
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To each their own of course. I just don't view it, as some suggested, as a no brainer upgrade. In a model or two it will be standard. I reckon technological redundancy costs will outpace the revenue from the bigger screen upsell. A 14" screen will feature thereafter. Either way, at resell point it will not feature as a cost variable.
#28
I guess the same can be argued for any feature.
rear locker
fridge
tow Hitch
3l engine
three row seating
etc
Id argue the screen size is down the priority list for many potential buyers, new or used, but you make a valid argument for sure.
Id not buy one without a tow hitch or a rear locker. Some folks wouldnt buy one with a smaller screen.
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#29
Major variants i.e. p300/p400 and 90/110 aside, if you want some specific option then I would just say get it (for you) but as far as adding to the resale there's so much depreciation in the first place I don't think many of these options will move the needle a whole lot down the road unless you find someone with a special use-case. What you might want to consider though is with the rear locker for instance adding additional vectoring and brake wear how many more $2300 brake jobs are you going to need. Then I think even if that's just one more over a 6 year period it may amount to a wash at best as far as any added resale that you're going to get on the back-end.
#30
Hi guys,
I am new to Land Rover. They aren't the most popular in India. As a matter of fact I have only seen 2 Defenders on the road till now. They dont have a lot of them because its literally a lot of money to buy one. My SE is about 150,000 USD. Given the economics of our pay scales, the defender is even more dearer and hence no one buys them here.
The dilemma that puts us under here is that the sales people are not aware of anything and are pretty useless. So, I am just booking my 110 SE today. I don't think my dealer gave me an option. Having read the views here, I was wondering if you guys can share real pictures of how the bigger screen looks.
Thanks
Siddharth
I am new to Land Rover. They aren't the most popular in India. As a matter of fact I have only seen 2 Defenders on the road till now. They dont have a lot of them because its literally a lot of money to buy one. My SE is about 150,000 USD. Given the economics of our pay scales, the defender is even more dearer and hence no one buys them here.
The dilemma that puts us under here is that the sales people are not aware of anything and are pretty useless. So, I am just booking my 110 SE today. I don't think my dealer gave me an option. Having read the views here, I was wondering if you guys can share real pictures of how the bigger screen looks.
Thanks
Siddharth
Here you go, we just picked up our new Defender and has ordered the larger screen. No complaints so far, its great. I would suggest adding after seeing the smaller screen this is much easier to see while driving etc.
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