11.4" at night...simply gorgeous!

 

$2300 brake job?!?
Is this serious?
I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a 2022 110 but $2300 brake jobs would definitely influence my decision.
Details please.

 

Someone (I think it's umbertob) with the rear electronic active differential with torque vectoring by braking, reported recently that he just had the 21000 miles oil change at the dealership, and the dealer inspected the brakes and found that they were fine.

In addition, torque vectoring by braking is not solely providing additional off-road capabilities, but is also providing on-road performance. Cornering at high speed with torque vectoring gives you that "drive on rail" effect with extra traction and stability, hence many high performance sports car are equipped with torque vectoring

Personally, it's worth it even if it causes additional brake wear because the benefits/effects are fully utilized and enjoyed when I drive both on-road and off-road.

 

I get the feeling $2300 was the question.

Here is a live view of the center console of my wife's Jaguar. We just throw them out the window while we drive.

 

No details to provide. Simply asked my dealer for a quote before I ordered my P300/90 "New pads and rotors all the way around is $2290."

For me personally I'm very easy on my brakes, I go 70k trade in my Q3 and it still didn't even need pads. lol I figure I'll probably have to pay for one brake job before I trade in the Defender for a new one. If it needs more than one brake job then I'll factor that into the decision. I love the vehicle but frequent brake jobs (if it turns out they're needed) would definitely deter me from buying another.

 

Don't all defenders come standard with torque vectoring by braking? the electronic rear diff locker has no bearing on the brakes... if anything it would reduce brake wear as when the locker is engaged the car won't be doing any torque vectoring in the rear.

that said 2300 is pretty steep, have to wonder what the parts/labor break down is there...

 

In my experience, the bulk of the cost is that the dealers don't want to or just won't turn the rotors. You'd have to find an outside guy if you ever want to reuse them.

 

I've been quoted $2500 brake job for my 2012 LR4. This was years ago pre-COVID. That's not a surprising number from a LR dealer.

 

I believe torque vectoring by braking comes with the rear electronic active differential which can only be added via the “off-road pack” (unless you want to pursue an retroactive route by sourcing multiple parts and acquiring after market retrofitting service by third party company).

My understanding is that when the sensors detect loss of traction during cornering and/or off-roading, the rear differential would apply braking electronically to the inner wheels (in the case of cornering at high speed) to prevent under steering and such. So yes if one would engage in spirit driving frequently, the rear brakes would likely wear faster. But i would think the brakes would not wear excessively faster if one does not engage in high speed cornering and/or serious off-roading frequently.

yet, as i mentioned above, @umbertob reported that the brakes on his were surprisingly still fine at 21k miles.

 

Interesting, yeah the specs do make it out as a separate feature. What puzzles me is that this is exactly what the main traction control system (ETC/DSC) does on all defenders, I guess it's an extension of the traction control? The current configurator doesn't mention it at all in the offroad package, only mention I see of it is on the V8's feature list. But I think I do remember that wording in the offroad pack when I was ordering.

Regardless of how it differs from the standard system, I'd imagine in order to see any real increase in brake wear you'd have to be doing a lot of very aggressive driving. Even then the wear from the traction control would pale in comparison to the wear from actual braking events. I wouldn't be concerned about it's impact on brake wear, I think of it as an advantage. Brakes are designed to be replaced, if it used something else to prevent slip I guarantee you wear on whatever that is would be much more expensive to replace.