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Old 05-31-2022, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ADVAW8S
I am not buying it but if I did, I would spec it without the third row and go with the P300. So it is a 110 with a much larger rear cargo space. I do like they give you that option to not even have the third row put in.
No P300 4-cylinder available with the 130, it's a 6-cylinder.
 
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Old 05-31-2022, 01:20 PM
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Will there be a plug-in-hybrid setup at some point? Especially in today’s situation, this would be something that a lot of people would like to see.
 
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Old 05-31-2022, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by new to landrover
No P300 4-cylinder available with the 130, it's a 6-cylinder.
so I went to the building site and see they are calling the P300 the 3.0L i6 but has 19. I would still do the S version and then do the caliper swap.
 
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Old 05-31-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GrouseK9

Other interesting (to me) notes:
- The Analog dash is a $0 option as is the Digital dash, which is default checked. I would have thought the Analog would have been a price reduction,
Is this




a price reduction over this? .
 
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:06 PM
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No alpine windows really kind of ruins the look for me. Sort of surprised at what a difference it makes. They obviously had to trade them for that fixed glass panel over the 3rd row, which was a poor choice in my opinion. Nobody's going to have 3rd row passengers all that often and they can just as easily look out the little alpine windows. There is probably enough room to have made them a bit bigger than in the 110 or position them such that they do not get cut in half as in the 90. Missed opportunity to provide a bit more cohesive family design language.
 
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:43 PM
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@NoGaBiker - I probably wrote that too fast. It defaults to the Digital/Rolex. If you change it to the Analog/Casio, it is $0. I would have thought you would have gotten a price reduction if you changed it to Analog/Casio (as they are MUCH cheaper than the Digital/Rolex). But, since so many folks were 'shafted' out of their digital displays, if they gave a credit for the Analog selection - there would be a mutiny.

@new to landrover - Good catch! Missed that at first. I'm bummed that the Defender touch of the Alpine windows is gone. Probably to put more structural integrity? Or just to cut costs? Who knows.

Yeah, if you look at the internal configuration, it shows the view with the seats down and that is an absolute train wreck of a design. @sarek showed it could be done, the designers/engineers just punted. Almost everyone else makes true fold flat seats. It CAN be done. I agree with others that ditching the furthest row of seats would be the way to go. My wife used to have a Tahoe w/ 3 rows that you could just push one lever and the 3rd row seats (individually) would unlock and you could roll them out. I thought that was the best because they were big freaking seats and you got all the room when out. I stored them in an attic unless we really needed them. I think the folding seats not flat are truly the poorest design in a vehicle I otherwise love. Well ok, that's hubris - they are on par with the flimsy windscreen!
 
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This First Edition is wild looking.

New Sedona Red color, white leather, chrome wheel arches! body-colored trim like the XS... personally don't love any of that.

Feels like they're trying to push it to look like a cross between a Range Rover (especially the tail) and a Toyota Land Cruiser.






 

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Old 05-31-2022, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TrioLRowner
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How / where do we see that the 130 floor does not lay flat?
Here it is



 
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:29 PM
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Screw Land Rover and their ridiculous seats that not only don't fold truly flat and run 'uphill' as you get closer to the front but more so for their horrible 'step' in the back cargo area. the D90 has it (in metal) and now this in carpet. Thanks guys, makes loading heavy, bulky cargo super easy.

Also, that First Edition is a joke. It's like somebody on the product development team drives a 2002 Cadillac Escalade and wanted them to build him a new one.
 
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:52 PM
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The new sequoia has a hump similar to this one. But that car also has 578 lb ft of torque (thanks to hybrid power
train and 48v hybrid system that is under the third row) and solid rear axles. Not hating not hating. But seriously, it’s fugly, as we can already tell, less practical, less powerful, less offroad worthy than the sequoia which is pretty much a land cruiser. Land Rover is really pushing the envelope on this one
 


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