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Old Jul 31, 2021 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fresher pie
I have no order. I'm trying to buy one off the lot in the U.S. (west coast) with it. I am told they are not shipping with it right now, and I'm legitimately asking if its possible to add later. I am going to look at one without it tomorrow.
Maybe check with another dealer? It's possible they just told you they're not shipping with it so you buy one of the Defenders they already have on the lot without it.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2021 | 02:53 PM
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http://www.jlr-retrofits.co.uk/

this site not working for me

would doing all of this void warranty?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2021 | 09:56 PM
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Ask LR retrofits if all 20-22 have the adaptive cruise hardware. I think they might b/c all defenders have emergency braking and need the radar equipment. Here is the website:

https://lr-retrofits.co.uk/ They changed the name slightly.

cheers!




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http://www.jlr-retrofits.co.uk/

this site not working for me

would doing all of this void warranty?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2021 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark1107
Ask LR retrofits if all 20-22 have the adaptive cruise hardware. I think they might b/c all defenders have emergency braking and need the radar equipment. Here is the website:

https://lr-retrofits.co.uk/ They changed the name slightly.

cheers!
Maybe a dumb question, please bear with me:

Can U.S. Dealerships perform these retrofits?

 
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Old Aug 2, 2021 | 01:06 PM
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This is what I was thinking, exactly.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2021 | 10:42 PM
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guys you have to bribe your service advisor. No dealership will do this by asking unless you grease the palms of the S.A. And Tech. LR Retrofits has to team viewer the dealership laptop with your truck hooked up to the Bosch DOiP tool and the retrofits works their magic.


Originally Posted by WMN
Maybe a dumb question, please bear with me:

Can U.S. Dealerships perform these retrofits?
 

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Old Jan 3, 2026 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TrioLRowner
The "clear sight ground view" is part of the "3D surround" capability which is standard on all Defenders. I have found the clear sight ground view a useful tool off-road (using it well takes a bit of practice), and the 3D surround camera useful in keeping from hitting the dogs while backing up or parking the vehicle. The picture has no trouble keeping up with a running dog -- something I found remarkable -- very clear and accurate.

For your purposes, I believe you do not require what is offered in the "advanced capability pack", particularly since you are not purchasing the towing pack.

The off-road pack includes the most critical hardware add, which is the electronic active (locking rear) differential.

The advanced capability pack is all software. And each of the items is not necessary if you do not drive off-road daily (and even then it is not really necessary).

I have found ATPC to be a cute idea, but not a "game changer" at all, yet. Unfortunately, the times I would most love it to work, multiple wheels spin and I have to dig out / board recover. Darn wet, clay mud !!! Evil stuff.

The best thing in the package for me is the AUTO mode in Terrain response II. It does a great job keeping up with the varying terrain inherent in off-road, mountain driving.

I still have not gotten to using the configurable capability. That learning task is on my to-do list.

If one needs and buys the tow package, the advanced capability pack items (all software) are bundled in -- (with minimal incremental value). So, the very useful towing hardware and wiring items carry with them the electronic gadgets (none of which are necessary, as described above).
Hello, after reading a response that you provided to someone, you may have elped me make a decision I have been pondering regarding The Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential for the past 48 hours non-stop, much easier.

My driving habits are aggressive, but not racing or reckless, and I do enjoy the feel of the road and driving. No kids. But I do live in a part of the country that sees all four seasons and this would be my primary vehicle.

65% - City and Highway (Mainly Highway)
30% - Country/Back Roads
5% - Paper/Dirt Roads

I have two options in taking delivery of a new 2026 Defender P400 X-Dynamic SE.
Both have the Towing hitch, and neither has the Off-Road Package w/Electronic Active Differential. Or the Advanced Off-Road Package

One has the Towing Package but does not have the Off-Road or Advanced Off-Road - Three weeks away.
The other does not have either, and is ready to be picked up.
Optionally, order one with the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential

I was trying to decide which one, if either, I should get or just order one, but would have to wait 6 months, which is doable.

Based on your comment to someone else, and since I have the GAD IID v4 tool coming soon. I feel like I don't need the towing PAK and I can forgo the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential.

My reason for wanting the Off-Road PAK was for occasional dirt/paper roads, snow, rain ICE Etc.. But I won't be doing any real off-roading or rock crawling etc…

In my reading, it sounded like I would notice better control and traction from the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential.

What is confusing also is that when you build a defender on the website, the Off-Road Pack is ($1,750.00) and the Advanced Off-Road Pack is $750.00 and you are able to select both… However, if you select the Towing Pack ($1,850.00), it removes the Advanced Off-Road Pack ($750.00) but keeps the Off-Road Pack ($1,750.00).

However, reading your comment, is making me think that I am overthinking this... If this is true, then it makes my decision much easier and I can pick up the defender I wanted this week. However, I don't mind waiting if I am mistaken.

Thank you in advance for reading and taking the time.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2026 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dragoe00
Hello, after reading a response that you provided to someone, you may have elped me make a decision I have been pondering regarding The Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential for the past 48 hours non-stop, much easier.

My driving habits are aggressive, but not racing or reckless, and I do enjoy the feel of the road and driving. No kids. But I do live in a part of the country that sees all four seasons and this would be my primary vehicle.

65% - City and Highway (Mainly Highway)
30% - Country/Back Roads
5% - Paper/Dirt Roads

I have two options in taking delivery of a new 2026 Defender P400 X-Dynamic SE.
Both have the Towing hitch, and neither has the Off-Road Package w/Electronic Active Differential. Or the Advanced Off-Road Package

One has the Towing Package but does not have the Off-Road or Advanced Off-Road - Three weeks away.
The other does not have either, and is ready to be picked up.
Optionally, order one with the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential

I was trying to decide which one, if either, I should get or just order one, but would have to wait 6 months, which is doable.

Based on your comment to someone else, and since I have the GAD IID v4 tool coming soon. I feel like I don't need the towing PAK and I can forgo the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential.

My reason for wanting the Off-Road PAK was for occasional dirt/paper roads, snow, rain ICE Etc.. But I won't be doing any real off-roading or rock crawling etc…

In my reading, it sounded like I would notice better control and traction from the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential.

What is confusing also is that when you build a defender on the website, the Off-Road Pack is ($1,750.00) and the Advanced Off-Road Pack is $750.00 and you are able to select both… However, if you select the Towing Pack ($1,850.00), it removes the Advanced Off-Road Pack ($750.00) but keeps the Off-Road Pack ($1,750.00).

However, reading your comment, is making me think that I am overthinking this... If this is true, then it makes my decision much easier and I can pick up the defender I wanted this week. However, I don't mind waiting if I am mistaken.

Thank you in advance for reading and taking the time.
Dragoe:

It has been awhile since I wrote the note to which you refer. Reading it anew, it still is a pretty accurate picture of my view on the question, even after 75k miles on my 2020 P300 Defender 110.

I do not believe you are over-thinking the question. It is true that the electronic active differential delivers a slight, incremental improvement in real tractive capability -- but this will likely only show itself if you find yourself often in off-road conditions where traction is marginal. I live in Appalachian red mud and that stuff is evil. If that is not what you are planning to tackle you will likely not regret having the standard rear differential. It is also possible that the standard differential may be more robust over years of owning the vehicle. But, I am doing just fine at 75K miles.

As for the electronics, they are bluntly not a substantial point of decision IMO without the existence of the hardware (in the form of the electronic active diff) in place.

Others on this forum hold strong opinions on this topic, and valid points, as well ............

Good luck.

Enjoy !!
 
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Old Jan 4, 2026 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dragoe00
Hello, after reading a response that you provided to someone, you may have elped me make a decision I have been pondering regarding The Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential for the past 48 hours non-stop, much easier.

My driving habits are aggressive, but not racing or reckless, and I do enjoy the feel of the road and driving. No kids. But I do live in a part of the country that sees all four seasons and this would be my primary vehicle.

65% - City and Highway (Mainly Highway)
30% - Country/Back Roads
5% - Paper/Dirt Roads

I have two options in taking delivery of a new 2026 Defender P400 X-Dynamic SE.
Both have the Towing hitch, and neither has the Off-Road Package w/Electronic Active Differential. Or the Advanced Off-Road Package

One has the Towing Package but does not have the Off-Road or Advanced Off-Road - Three weeks away.
The other does not have either, and is ready to be picked up.
Optionally, order one with the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential

I was trying to decide which one, if either, I should get or just order one, but would have to wait 6 months, which is doable.

Based on your comment to someone else, and since I have the GAD IID v4 tool coming soon. I feel like I don't need the towing PAK and I can forgo the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential.

My reason for wanting the Off-Road PAK was for occasional dirt/paper roads, snow, rain ICE Etc.. But I won't be doing any real off-roading or rock crawling etc…

In my reading, it sounded like I would notice better control and traction from the Off-Road Package - Electronic Active Differential.

What is confusing also is that when you build a defender on the website, the Off-Road Pack is ($1,750.00) and the Advanced Off-Road Pack is $750.00 and you are able to select both… However, if you select the Towing Pack ($1,850.00), it removes the Advanced Off-Road Pack ($750.00) but keeps the Off-Road Pack ($1,750.00).

However, reading your comment, is making me think that I am overthinking this... If this is true, then it makes my decision much easier and I can pick up the defender I wanted this week. However, I don't mind waiting if I am mistaken.

Thank you in advance for reading and taking the time.
If you plan on towing a trailer that has to be fitted with brakes, get the tow package. I have that so I've got the required air suspension. I did not get the off-road package. However, I've done a bunch of those so called Jeep "Badge of Honor" trails and so far, haven't missed the rear locker. Spend your money on sliders.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2026 | 06:57 AM
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I concur with Poptopp 100% on the towing package -- having the wiring in place throughout the vehicle for the brake controller is a huge plus.

Because of its non-ladder-frame construction, having sliders is a near-mandatory item for doing interesting / difficult off-road driving. Many, including I, have posted good and helpful details on slider installation and options on this forum.

Enjoy !
 

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