Defender 130, opinion
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Look at the stats
#36
You seem to be arguing that some major slice of the SUV market is to serious rock crawlers.
NGB seems to be arguing that the majority of SUVs, and I would agree that this is true even with Jeep Wrangler Rubicons, never crawl rocks.
So what NGB seems to be saying is that sales of the D130 would not be a success just because of rock crawling customers, it will be a success or failure based on how it is received by said soccer moms. I don't disagree.
On a related note we wanted a D110 (w/ 3-rows) over a Discovery based largely on form/style (the Disco being hideous in our opinion). I am sure however the Disco would have FUNCTIONED fine for our primary off-road uses (beach/sand/dune, occasional forest trails). The D130 looks like it would have worked for us in all but one way - we're at max size in the garage anything larger just wouldn't fit and that's a deal breaker for us. I'm sure it doesn't matter to many/most (or many will not have garages so stuffed with motorcycles they can't fit a larger SUV).
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The D130 looks like it would have worked for us in all but one way - we're at max size in the garage anything larger just wouldn't fit and that's a deal breaker for us. I'm sure it doesn't matter to many/most (or many will not have garages so stuffed with motorcycles they can't fit a larger SUV).
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There is a large market for premium, family 4WD SUVs (MB, Volvo, BMW, Audi) without LO range or locking diffs, room for a family to grow, and with upscale styling inside.
Once the new premium Discovery line vehicle (D6?) is rolled-out to tackle this market (at pricing beneath Defender 130 because it is stripped of off-road capability?), who knows what the volumes of each will be? It will be fun to watch over time.
I have a friend who just sold his premium AMG MB SUV (one very desirable for the mall / school run crowd) once he found he could not climb a hill on some nearby property -- one which my 2020 110 climbed without a problem (lifted to off-road height, diffs locked and in LO range).
Once the new premium Discovery line vehicle (D6?) is rolled-out to tackle this market (at pricing beneath Defender 130 because it is stripped of off-road capability?), who knows what the volumes of each will be? It will be fun to watch over time.
I have a friend who just sold his premium AMG MB SUV (one very desirable for the mall / school run crowd) once he found he could not climb a hill on some nearby property -- one which my 2020 110 climbed without a problem (lifted to off-road height, diffs locked and in LO range).
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