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Old 01-29-2021, 10:25 PM
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and it looks like the width between the D90 wheel wells determines how wide the second row bench seat can be (which is probably why the second row seat bottom doesn't fold up, and the second row seat back fold down, like the 5-seater D110 does?).
 
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:51 AM
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Same, just got a 2020 Defender with the third row and the second row doesn't have a tab to fold the seat tops forward. I tried to manually flip them and they wouldn't budge and tried to search around to make sure that tab wasn't buried in the seat. Would love if they would lay flat like the 5-seater but it doesn't look like it's happening.

This section of the manual makes it pretty clear that the 5 and 7 seat configurations use a different mechanism: https://www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/.../proc/G2408625

Guessing it has to do with the sliding capability of the second row in a 7 seater.
Just circling back around on this....I saw a video yesterday where an owner pushed down really hard on their second row in a 7-seat configuration and to my surprise, it did indeed lock into place! I gave it a shot on mine, and the second row does in fact lock down and it's FAR more flat than without locking. You have to put a lot of force into it, like almost all of your weight into pushing it down, but do it hard enough and the seat cushion compresses and you end up with a very nicely locked down second row that is near flat.

Really excited to have learned this, because the "unlocked" angle was a real pet peeve and felt like a pretty big compromise for having a third row.
 
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Old 02-18-2021, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AndrewMN
Just circling back around on this....I saw a video yesterday where an owner pushed down really hard on their second row in a 7-seat configuration and to my surprise, it did indeed lock into place! I gave it a shot on mine, and the second row does in fact lock down and it's FAR more flat than without locking. You have to put a lot of force into it, like almost all of your weight into pushing it down, but do it hard enough and the seat cushion compresses and you end up with a very nicely locked down second row that is near flat.

Really excited to have learned this, because the "unlocked" angle was a real pet peeve and felt like a pretty big compromise for having a third row.
Do you mind posting a picture of it locked down. I wanna know how far down I need to push it.
 
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Old 02-18-2021, 03:03 PM
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Here it is locked down, maybe not the best picture because you can't see the actual flat part in the rear, but notice how tight together the back and seat cushions are.


 
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Originally Posted by AndrewMN
Here it is locked down, maybe not the best picture because you can't see the actual flat part in the rear, but notice how tight together the back and seat cushions are.

​​​​​Thank you. Excellent, that's flat enough for my needs. I will give it a try
 
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:23 AM
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Tried to grab a few more photos to show the seats unlocked and locked. To lock, it's almost easier to slam them down hard with some force rather than "shove" them down.





 
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Old 02-26-2021, 09:30 PM
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I ordered a 2021 7 seat & after reading this, confirmed it with the Monterey CA dealer. This is as flat as a 7 seat gets. I canceled my order. I'm going to reorder a 5 seat.

Dealer was also unable to get the Wren winch and said it was on indefinite backorder. 2nd reason I canceled order.
 
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Originally Posted by noor440
​​​​​Thank you. Excellent, that's flat enough for my needs. I will give it a try
If you LOCK it down how do you unlock to put them up again?
 
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Old 03-26-2021, 03:31 PM
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If you LOCK it down how do you unlock to put them up again?
You pull the lever at the base of the seat, on the side. I don't have access to the car right now, otherwise I would provide pictures but the seats are pretty close to flat, I don't regret getting the extra seats (3rd row only fits children btw). I was planning on sleeping in the back if the need ever arises and this slight incline will not interfere.
 
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Old 03-26-2021, 05:22 PM
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Thank you for this! Originally I looked at a 5 seater in showroom and made sure seats laid flat to move furniture but the car they found for me available was a 7 seater and never thought to question the back seat laying flat until I tried to put them down after having the car. Hopefully it won’t make a difference.
 
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