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Old May 21, 2024 | 11:16 PM
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Well, dang ! that explains a LOT about JLR.
I just got my LexisNexis report and did some deep diving into the data, matching it with other sources, and yes, LR sells a ton of info about your specific vehicle, vin, payments, where ones lives, service history (!), etc. ... I mean a lot. 2 pages out of the 116 in my report, were related to LR.
But then again, I am sure others do too.
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mechano2020
Well, dang ! that explains a LOT about JLR.
I just got my LexisNexis report and did some deep diving into the data, matching it with other sources, and yes, LR sells a ton of info about your specific vehicle, vin, payments, where ones lives, service history (!), etc. ... I mean a lot. 2 pages out of the 116 in my report, were related to LR.
But then again, I am sure others do too.
Can you post a link to the report you mention? Thank you.
 
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Old May 23, 2024 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wcc18999
Can you post a link to the report you mention? Thank you.
Order Your Report Online - LexisNexis Risk Solutions Consumer Disclosure

 
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Old May 23, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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Thank you
 
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Old Aug 13, 2025 | 11:28 PM
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I work w this crap daily. Simple solution. Paint or cover the gps antenna with metal or a paint that has lead or metal in it. The device will not receive a decent gps signal, as if youre in a basement parking garage. Problem solved.Testing myself after reading this and fckng w a 23 defender... i get enough calls from india.they wanna sell my shlt fine, but they aint gonna find me....
 
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Old Aug 14, 2025 | 01:33 PM
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I don't much care if JLR and LexisNexis, etc., know what I paid for the car and where I live (they know that already). I absolutely do care if they are monitoring my location and how I drive. Supposedly, they don't do that unless you are signed up on the app (by using it you agree to this!), but I don't trust that, and they can change that any time they want anyway.'

If you live in California and probably other places (Germany, etc.) that have stronger privacy protections than the U.S. does (we have almost none!), supposedly you can demand that they stop collecting the data and delete what the have, but I don't trust that either.

Don't despair. It's absolutely possible to disable telematics. There's a cell-phone antenna in the shark fin. Just disconnect it, and it should simply appear like you are out of range of cell service. The only down-side that I would expect is that you will not receive over-the-air Pivi updates without (temporarily) connecting your car to your home wifi. At that point, it will phone home, of course, but then at least it's your own choice.

You can access the telematics antenna from either above the headliner at the rear door (below the shark fin), or to its cable by opening up the left rear interior quarter panel trim. The antenna area is probably more convenient. Powerful UK did a video on accessing that area.

I wouldn't recommend covering the antenna area, because the GPS and satellite radio antenna is there too, and you would lose those as well.

I just bought one of those trim-removal tool kits and will attempt this. I was planning on waiting for the next Pivi update, which supposedly improves the rear camera at night (probably by very little, realistically - I wasn't even sure if the last change was actually beneficial or not), but maybe I'll do it now and report back, since this thread has been resurrected.
 

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Old Aug 14, 2025 | 01:51 PM
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Does anyone have a picture or other information on the telematics module (TCU), or the shark-fin pod, showing the color coding of the coaxial cables?

Thanks.
 

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Old Aug 14, 2025 | 11:33 PM
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So it becomes a philosophical issue about giving up your data and GPS location. Ideally, we'd all be able to move through our lives w/ complete privacy, but.....here is the reality.

If you're using a smart phone of any sort--just checking Google Maps, any social media apps or web sites, checking your email or browsing web sites (via embedded non-visible web bugs that are in the emails and web pages that track you for marketing purposes), logging in to do online banking, paying for stuff via NFC on your phone (or just using a credit card), hopping onto a WiFi network (good chance the public WiFi hotspot is collecting your device's MAC address and logging your DNS requests as well as profiling you by your device/web browser, and if they're not, their upstream ISP definitely is) you're instantly being tracked at least to a coarse degree (down to the neighborhood you're in if not down to a 10-30 ft radius which is what GPS can give easily).

Heck, just having a signal on any cellular network, your cell phone provider is definitely tracking your location already. Maybe not for nefarious purposes, but they're logging it and monitoring your location data and movements (ostensibly for maintaining cell connectivity and handoff to adjoining cells when you're on the move to maintain connectivity) and selling likely it (hopefully anonymized and aggregated w other users) to other marketing companies for added revenue....but who knows, with a warrant, Law Enforcement can ping you down to the city block or better in real time.

See what I'm getting at? I'm not trying to pull any Tin Foil hat stuff here, you can research all of this and it is current practice and quite legal.

In comparison, Land Rover collecting all of our telematic data is probably just the tip of the iceberg if you're already using a cell phone and connected in any way.

Sad, but that is what we have all given up for all the connectivity and convenience.

More reasons to go out into the boonies w/ our Defenders and get off line when we can : )
 

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Old Aug 15, 2025 | 06:21 AM
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@DaveCNB well said. Unfortunately that is the sad truth. Everything we do is being tracked in one form or another....
 
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Old Nov 11, 2025 | 10:23 PM
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on my 2016 discovery my app stopped working even though i had a valid subscription. I was told since the '16 use a 2g/3g signal. It wont work anymore since they are removing those 2g/3g towers
 
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