Didnt JLR want to be completely electric by 2030?

 

As a last resort maybe.
https://media.jaguarlandrover.com/ne...cell-prototype

 

I really hope not.

What I don’t understand is when our entire electric grid and infrastructure support framework is going to be in place to support all these electric cars within these insanely aggressive timelines? We have a hard time building a 1-mile bridge within a 15-year period, how are we going to pull this off? I still think it’s completely fanciful this transition will happen in the next 4 to 9 years. Over the summer here in California folks with electric cars were asked not to charge them to reduce the blackouts for a few days, I think we have about 2.2% EVs. Sounds radical.

I absolutely loath toasters.

 

Ironically, the car culture of California is contributing to the reason for rolling blackouts. BTW, I have a level 2 charger at home that, when in use, consumes more electricity than anything else in my house, including my air conditioning, so it kinda makes sense. Don’t you think?

You should drive an I Pace and reassess.

 

All new construction in California is required to have PV solar systems now right? Obviously we need to incorporate more renewable energy sources into our power grids. People complain about change though and there is alot of money lost in the transition.

 

I think it really all comes down to Jevons Paradox.

 

Electric or electrified cars are a beautiful utopia. Kinda like Marvel movies.
Things change quick when reality gets in the way. Minerals (scarcity of them) , mining of minerals ( can't dig with electric excavators ), batteries - production to safe disposal ( very expensive and shorter time than a combustion engine), power grid - yeah, producing that at mass levels is not done with solar or wind, and the reduced driving range, compared with IC engines. Charging my vehicles for 1-2 hrs (if and where I might find a station ) to complete a trip of 3-4 hrs in 6-8 hrs is a deal killer.
But, yes, is a nice day dream.... and politicians will impose it on the polulace - for the good of the "collective" with total disregard for the final outcome, while they jettison on Leer jets and big limos.
Call me in 20 years from now and tell me how that ends....

 

That’s Luddite thinking. I bet kerosene distributors made similar arguments against oil 150 years ago. Things change quickly, and perhaps that’s what you are reacting to, but there are plenty of DC Fast Charge locations along major interstates that make your deal killer sound like misinformation.

Have you ever even driven an electric vehicle? The torque alone is worth the price of being an early adopter.

 

The kerosene distributor you speak of was John D Rockefeller.

He did "okay" but, since 40% of a barrel of crude is gasoline which had no use at all and had to be burned off as waste, his real money only came when the ICE was invented.

Gasoline is still otherwise useless and would have to be burned again or pumped back into the ground if we stop using it. The world currently uses enough gasoline to circle the globe 4x per year stored in barrels.

The rest of the barrel of crude is the foundation of modern civilization. Everything is from crude so we can't stop pumping.

 

You are completely missing the point, but I get it ... you are on the "greenie" side.
There are not enough resources in the world to produce the batteries needed for the "new" cars.
Yes, if you want just a few selected ones to drive, then that may be possible, but there will never be a 1:1 replacement.
You also miss the point on the charging too - why should I wait hours to charge, when I can get it filled up in merely minutes ?
Where do you thing that electric power comes from ? From the outlet ? NO ! it comes from coal, or other fossil fuels.
Hydro, solar and power are minimal. Look at the California experiment - they doing "great" !
From cradle to the grave the electric cars are more polluting than a gasoline engine cars.... but don't let the facts stand in the way of the truth.
Yeah, you almost got me with the torque - almost become a true believer.
That was not the point ! yes they do have torque. No one debates that, but at what cost !?
Anyways, as I said, call me in 20 years and tell me how that worked out - electric cars that is.