Got stuck on my 16 degree driveway
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I'm late to the party. @Dogpilot always has a good tip. I'll remember that one. I'll join the "Tires" group for another vote. All-Terrain tires are the "middle ground" for most everything but as mentioned, master of none. Most folks with serious winter seasons have a spare set of winter/snow tires. THEY are worth the investment. Since moving to Texas, any time it snows - I just wait a few hours and PRESTO: gone. I would LOVE to be up there. If you don't have proper tires, momentum is your best friend. Until of course, it becomes your worst enemy. In those conditions, it helps you go thru the parts where you have no traction and then you have great velocity with no traction.... Be careful and good luck!
#23
I can confirm the OEM Wranglers are horrible on snow.
For now, I'll try swapping into my BFG KTOs. Will be better, though I understand not as great as a Nokian or pure snow tire.
The aggravating part about it was when two of my neighbors came out to watch the show as I struggled to get into my Driveway. (They drive a Buick sedan, VW Atlas and Subarus and have flat driveways.) When I finally managed to get into my driveway, both guys just had to walk over and comment on how the "big tough Land Rover" wasn't so tough afterall. I explained to both that the truck is more than capable, but it was my street tires and my own lack of offroad skill that was the problem. But they wouldn't budge. They both laughed and said I paid too much for a "tough looking" car. I wanted to punch them.
For now, I'll try swapping into my BFG KTOs. Will be better, though I understand not as great as a Nokian or pure snow tire.
The aggravating part about it was when two of my neighbors came out to watch the show as I struggled to get into my Driveway. (They drive a Buick sedan, VW Atlas and Subarus and have flat driveways.) When I finally managed to get into my driveway, both guys just had to walk over and comment on how the "big tough Land Rover" wasn't so tough afterall. I explained to both that the truck is more than capable, but it was my street tires and my own lack of offroad skill that was the problem. But they wouldn't budge. They both laughed and said I paid too much for a "tough looking" car. I wanted to punch them.
#24
Defiantly don't run out and get big "warty" tires. Mostly useless in the snow. It is fun to watch, mildly terrifying at times, folks with their cartoon jeeps coming up to the mountains from Phoenix. They seem to delight going through intersection sideways, backwards or gracefully spinning around . They all have oversize, "Hot Wheels" looking tires mounted. Actually good snow tires do not look aggressive at all. They have some open space, but more importantly, they are soft rubber and have "sipes" grooved into them. If it is steep and somewhat icy, then only studs or chains will solve your problem. I have a very steep curving driveway. There is no un-studed tire in the world today that will work on it if there is snow laying over it. If there is snow on it, we park at the top and clear it. If we are in the garage, we clear it first, then drive out. The actual best tire for your driveway is a snow shovel, or in my case a snowblower with tank treads. If you drive over the snow before you clear it, you have just made ice that will last the season. Which coincidently will ultimately cause you concrete to spall after a few seasons. Snow season is a 4-5 month exercise in digging up here, we get 100" on average, in 3-6" at a time, twice a week. It was 10° this morning, while I had cleared the driveway last evening, the snow plow came by in the middle of the night and left me a nice berm. So I was out with the handy Honda snow blower first thing this morning. Last year, gads! I was sooooo tired of moving snow around (second snowiest winter on record up here since 1857). I even have to get it off my roof. Which turns to snowcrete when it hits the ground.
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#25
Late to the party here, but I saw a few suggestions about airing down to 20psi or below - don't even think of trying this with the stock Wranglers, which have an especially weak sidewall. You'll end up with a pinch flat. I know OP mentioned switching tires, so more of a general statement - if you fit BFG's or Wildpeaks (in my case) you can definitely air down a bit.
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Late to the party here, but I saw a few suggestions about airing down to 20psi or below - don't even think of trying this with the stock Wranglers, which have an especially weak sidewall. You'll end up with a pinch flat. I know OP mentioned switching tires, so more of a general statement - if you fit BFG's or Wildpeaks (in my case) you can definitely air down a bit.
bro, it’s his driveway, not the Rubicon. He’s not gonna pinch flat…
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"Bro", they normally want to run at 50PSI, and 34 for "light load". Take then down to 12 as was suggested further up and you're going to risk a very sad time, even if you're not on the Rubicon.
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I was out in mine today after a snowfall in my factory supplied road tires on 18s and didn't have any issues. We have two roads here that are 15 degrees. Drove right up one hill, and then down the other. Smooth like a limo driver probably helps. I am a little baffled that you couldn't get up that driveway. Maybe if you stopped at the bottom and didn't have any forward momentum at all, then did the mash the gas technique you wouldn't get very far. Not being there to see it makes it tough to solve. Snow can be a challenge and depends on a lot of factors when you are out in it.
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#30
@D-Fens what do you run your Wildpeaks at when off-road (yes, I know, sand vs rock vs... matters). I just switched to Wildpeaks AT3W and am looking for insights. Thanks!
I've seen other people drop them below 20 without issues and I wouldn't hesitate if needed.