I've been waffling about 'trading up' to this truck from my beloved 2013 LR4, but there's a growing list of irritations that keep me from making the move. Yesterday I saw a video that mentioned accessing the seat heater control through the PIVI screen? Heated seats are something I use constantly in the winter, no matter how short the trip. It just bugs me in practice and in principal that the designers would change an obviously simple method of a button, to digging through menus on a screen every time I go out for a drive. The low range BUTTON? Sure of course, because everyone uses low range every day /s. But a seat heater button? Nah, waste of space. Crazy! This isn't necessarily the deal breaker, just another WTF were they thinking situation.

for those interested, other peeves are: Sacrificing rear cargo for limousine like legroom in the rear seat, hidden tow hooks (or missing unless you pay top dollar), 15% greater turning radius (vs. LR4), the stupid stainable cloth around perfectly good leather seating, And everything about the rear swinging door - won't stay open, less width clearance, no tailgate.

 

The button for the heated seats is located on the temperature control button, all you have to do is push it!!

 

LOL, off to youtube to tell the ignorant reviewer! One less nit to worry about, I honestly found it very hard to believe. Although they showed on video that you can also access it in the menu as well. thanks much!

 

As caveat to this, if you want rear passengers to control the same, you have to turn it on the screen.

 

Roverrex:

I kept my 2011 LR4 and added a 2013 LR4 to my families' fleet because I believe that vehicle is the pinnacle of the balanced, "all-rounder", on/off road, heavy towing SUV -- from any manufacturer. The only downside is its maintenance expenses -- nothing in life is for free !

I traded in my 2016 Evoque to purchase a P300 D110, what I believe to be the design pinnacle of a modern 4WD off-roader. JLR had to sacrifice a lot, design-wise, to make such a vehicle, including what you note (and more) in your posting.

Now a buyer has to decide if they are "off-roading" or are living on asphalt, and choose from JLR either the Defender or the Discovery 5 / RR Sport, respectively.

Enjoy!

 

Well they chose to, they didn't 'have to'. Problem is, I'm not sure why they chose to. Included in this is the (what sounds like) significantly less effective keyless entry antenna. Why do a redesign of something that worked perfectly, then not test it to make sure it works perfectly?
Bottom line is I like it, I don't love it The somewhat cutesy looks are starting to grow on me. But I don't see much at all except for newness, which counts for something, that is better than the LR4. Also, the only thing I have done in 6 years is control arms, should I have said that out loud? LOL

 

roverrex:

Yep, they chose to ... the timing driven by the reality that their Ford supplied engines were coming to the end of the contract -- and by the SERIOUS need to make the Discovery 5 a winner on the asphalt for families -- take away the transfer case, lower the sales price, make it Mom friendly, etc (one has to admit the LR4 third row seat raising and lowering is not family suitable).

And yes, I eschew all the wifi, computer stuff for sure (to the degree that I can) -- but more power to others, of course. And yes, I still like the look of the LR4 better than the curvy muscle look of the Defender (though many, including my wife, disagrees). Cutesy is a good way to say it -- and yes, the look is beginning to convince me.

I do LOVE the 4WD, engine, transmission and suspensions system in the new P300 Defender and the chassis shape, strength and weight which carries it. It is the best (full stop) capability available on the market (excepting if one overlands in the remote areas -- then the Land Cruiser comes to the fore in my opinion, solely because of simplicity and parts availability). The 4WD system and drivetrain is why I bought the vehicle.

Enjoy !!

 

The stainable cloth is gone now as well. Leather is now standard on all MY22 models.

 

No worries mate…it was a good chuckle, not at you but with you..! We all have those moments, especially those of us that didn’t grow up with a iPad as a best friend !!

 

I think it’s worth pointing out that when smart screens hit the automotive industry it was a foregone conclusion that buttons would be replaced by a multi-level menu on a touch screen. If they’ve already invested in a screen, why spend money on designing and manufacturing a physical button? It costs a lot of money to tool switches.

Still, kudos to Land Rover for combining a physical push-dial A/C with seat cool/heat function!! They work brilliantly. I don’t need to look down to hear or cook the seat.