I’m out, thank you
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#52
I asked my dealer and he says my P400 110 X-Dynamic HSE is NOT getting the digital dash delete.
My build in September 17 so it's in the range that was mentioned above.
He said if it does get deleted, they will notify me and I will have the chance to delay into a holding pool or go ahead and take the analog display and keep my build date.
Obvs the holding pool will be an unknown but you don't just go to the back of the line.
Seems reasonable.
#53
My 15yo has received 2 gift packs in the mail and a phone call from Ford with updates on his Bronco order.
We also got called and personally invited to the Bronco Off-Roadeo event free of charge BEFORE we get the truck.
They gave him a price lock until 2023 as long as he orders the same model, and they gave him $1,100 in Ford cash for accessories. They also included a sound deadening headliner upgrade at no charge.
All I have down is a $100 deposit that actually got refunded even though my order is still in because that's how they handle it when you switch dealers.
I've paid them $0 for this $52,000 car order and truly feel like they've communicated honestly and have done far better than anything that Land Rover has offered for my $90,000 Defender, which is absolutely nothing.
I also realize they are having problems with these tops but you know what, they're going to replace them all and, oh yeah, give me another free upgrade to the pre-wire for a hard top if I order soft top now. Tell me how the Defender A-pillar situation is being handled. Tell me about the TSB for fabric that they failed to treat at the factory so it's all staining and their answer is to "Shop-Vac it".
The Ford bashing is getting old. Land Rover just doesn't give a f***.
We also got called and personally invited to the Bronco Off-Roadeo event free of charge BEFORE we get the truck.
They gave him a price lock until 2023 as long as he orders the same model, and they gave him $1,100 in Ford cash for accessories. They also included a sound deadening headliner upgrade at no charge.
All I have down is a $100 deposit that actually got refunded even though my order is still in because that's how they handle it when you switch dealers.
I've paid them $0 for this $52,000 car order and truly feel like they've communicated honestly and have done far better than anything that Land Rover has offered for my $90,000 Defender, which is absolutely nothing.
I also realize they are having problems with these tops but you know what, they're going to replace them all and, oh yeah, give me another free upgrade to the pre-wire for a hard top if I order soft top now. Tell me how the Defender A-pillar situation is being handled. Tell me about the TSB for fabric that they failed to treat at the factory so it's all staining and their answer is to "Shop-Vac it".
The Ford bashing is getting old. Land Rover just doesn't give a f***.
Stop drinking the kool-aid....Ford doesn't give a f^^^ either. Sending out quarterly apology letters doesn't get you your vehicle any faster, in case you didn't notice.
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I asked my dealer and he says my P400 110 X-Dynamic HSE is NOT getting the digital dash delete.
My build in September 17 so it's in the range that was mentioned above.
He said if it does get deleted, they will notify me and I will have the chance to delay into a holding pool or go ahead and take the analog display and keep my build date.
Obvs the holding pool will be an unknown but you don't just go to the back of the line.
Seems reasonable.
I asked my dealer and he says my P400 110 X-Dynamic HSE is NOT getting the digital dash delete.
My build in September 17 so it's in the range that was mentioned above.
He said if it does get deleted, they will notify me and I will have the chance to delay into a holding pool or go ahead and take the analog display and keep my build date.
Obvs the holding pool will be an unknown but you don't just go to the back of the line.
Seems reasonable.
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Ford understands they can appease their fanboys by sending out gifts to 15 year olds because that's the mindset of a Ford Fanboy. The reason they're locking in pricing until 2023 is because that's when you might get delivery..........oh yeah, Ford is great because they're replacing defective tops?????....that's laughable.
Stop drinking the kool-aid....Ford doesn't give a f^^^ either. Sending out quarterly apology letters doesn't get you your vehicle any faster, in case you didn't notice.
Stop drinking the kool-aid....Ford doesn't give a f^^^ either. Sending out quarterly apology letters doesn't get you your vehicle any faster, in case you didn't notice.
I was told I would receive my defender in June after my early February order. Instead I am hoping for a mid to late September delivery with a lovely 4k price increase thanks to the switch to the my22 change. I have heard nothing from LR corporate and my dealer has basically taken the approach that it is what it is and take it or leave it.
Can anyone tell me another scenario were they have placed an order for something at a certain price (perhaps even put down a hefty deposit) only to have the price be significantly changed because the seller cant keep up with demand? Maybe you think differently on this then me, but I think its very poor to change prices once the price has been agreed upon. If you are confirmed into an order and a model year changes (and if it changes very early) that should not penalize the consumer.
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I for one would have appreciated much better communication. The typical consumer has no idea what is going on with the supply chains, demand, virus/vaccine conditions at the plant etc. Our expectations need to be kept in check. At first we are frustrated that our defender has been delayed two months but relatively thats better than loosing out on options that are no longer available. Ford has their own issues but at least they are doing something.
I was told I would receive my defender in June after my early February order. Instead I am hoping for a mid to late September delivery with a lovely 4k price increase thanks to the switch to the my22 change. I have heard nothing from LR corporate and my dealer has basically taken the approach that it is what it is and take it or leave it.
Can anyone tell me another scenario were they have placed an order for something at a certain price (perhaps even put down a hefty deposit) only to have the price be significantly changed because the seller cant keep up with demand? Maybe you think differently on this then me, but I think its very poor to change prices once the price has been agreed upon. If you are confirmed into an order and a model year changes (and if it changes very early) that should not penalize the consumer.
I was told I would receive my defender in June after my early February order. Instead I am hoping for a mid to late September delivery with a lovely 4k price increase thanks to the switch to the my22 change. I have heard nothing from LR corporate and my dealer has basically taken the approach that it is what it is and take it or leave it.
Can anyone tell me another scenario were they have placed an order for something at a certain price (perhaps even put down a hefty deposit) only to have the price be significantly changed because the seller cant keep up with demand? Maybe you think differently on this then me, but I think its very poor to change prices once the price has been agreed upon. If you are confirmed into an order and a model year changes (and if it changes very early) that should not penalize the consumer.
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I know this might not be popular in this forum ,but at that price I rather have a Bentley Bentayga
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#59
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m definitely not in your consumer cohort and am well informed outside of the ‘dealership’ that there’s a massive worldwide shortage and near collapse in just about everything in consumer goods. We’re lucky we’re still getting toilet paper for crying out loud. I’ll never be or act like your type of consumer. Be ready for a lot more disappointments.
Last edited by benb007; 08-19-2021 at 07:59 PM.
#60
I think there is some willful ignorance of the fact that at the beginning of the pandemic auto manufacturers sold off and canceled orders of commodities expecting a huge lengthy decline of demand.
Actually though demand bounced back extremely quickly and auto makers have been scrambling ever since which includes passing costs incurred at least partly by their poor planning to the consumer. To say nothing of the leaches in the middle, the dealers. It boggles the mind to read “its not a bit their fault” and “of course you should pay more for less” comments
Actually though demand bounced back extremely quickly and auto makers have been scrambling ever since which includes passing costs incurred at least partly by their poor planning to the consumer. To say nothing of the leaches in the middle, the dealers. It boggles the mind to read “its not a bit their fault” and “of course you should pay more for less” comments
Last edited by Mcdooogs; 08-19-2021 at 08:05 PM.