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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 02:19 PM
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750 miles on it. Here are my codes. Anything major? I've got a service scheduled.

Model L663 - Defender 2024Vehicle scanned on Mar 9, 2025 12:01:17 PMIIDControl 4.2.11 Build 168 Android - IIDTool BT V4.0 B3998-99 ABS-Anti-Lock Brake System Control Module U0400-81 - Invalid Data Received - invalid serial data received (68) BCM-Body Control Module B10AD-87 - Rain Sensor - missing message (28) CHCM-Chassis Control Module P1905-00 - Control Module Configured for End-of-Line Test Mode - no sub type information (28) U3000-54 - Control Module - missing calibration (28) HCMB-Headlamp Control Module 'B' U0046-81 - Vehicle Communication Bus C - invalid serial data received (6C) HCM-Headlamp Control Module 'A' U0046-81 - Vehicle Communication Bus C - invalid serial data received (6C) PCM-Powertrain Control Module P00BC-00 - Mass or Volume Air Flow A Circuit Range/Performance - Air Flow Too Low - no sub type information (AF)
 
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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 07:05 PM
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Is your battery almost depleted? Stick it on a agm charger to top it off. Clear the codes. And report back. Or… let us know what the dealer says. I bet your battery is low and causing your issues.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 07:06 PM
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The battery must be toast altogether. Died on the second night home from the dealer (new) and these codes threw in the middle of a 180 mile road trip where one would think the battery would charge...
 
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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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You should have got a battery issue cel. Did you see one?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 07:57 PM
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All are listed above. Didn't see one.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2025 | 11:19 PM
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Anyone actually has no issue like other brand cars?

I got my D90 75th CPO with 6800 miles a month ago.
And died in a week had to jump start a few times to drive before heading to dealer to get new battery, roof trim replaced under warranty.
Enjoyed my car for a week and going back to dealer again next Monday as non of HVAC function works anymore (heater, A/C, heated all 3 heated seats, 2 cooled seats). HUD disappears a few times but dealer couldn't replicate it.

Love my defender but def. very unexpected experience I have. it's painful but no idea why I like my car so much...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2025 | 12:24 PM
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sounds rough, but they aren't all like that, I've had mine almost four years now without a single issue. I realize that doesn't help you, but hang in there.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2025 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman153
sounds rough, but they aren't all like that, I've had mine almost four years now without a single issue. I realize that doesn't help you, but hang in there.
Yeah. it's very first time having these many issues especially when I bought a dealer's CPO.
Quite annoying but still love the car. very weird situation.

I really hope I can get all these issue resolved to start enjoying daily. Glad to hear car itself is not bad as I'm going through.
Just first time LR buyer and knowing their general reputation, I was worried.
After highschool, it was very first time I had t jump start.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2025 | 09:08 AM
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Anyone actually has no issue like other brand cars?
Yes, lemons roll off of every factory floor no matter what the brand.

I get the idea - through anecdotal observation of the forums - that the Defender is a pretty reliable vehicle if it gets past its first 10k miles without a hiccup. It seems that a certain percentage of them are just duds right from the factory - and if my vehicle threw a CEL like at 750 miles, I'd be on the phone to my sales representative immediately letting them know that the lemon law clock was ticking.

​​​​​​​Just first time LR buyer and knowing their general reputation, I was worried.
LR's reputation is based off of vehicles that were made over a decade ago, in a different country, in a different factory, using different processes from the new Defender. It's a sticky reputation to break out of, especially since Toyota fanboys seems to do nothing but crowd the comments sections of every LR product youtube video with claims of their vaunted reliability (They do it to Jeeps too, its super annoying. Not as annoying as the ducks though).
 

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Old Mar 13, 2025 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by H1Tad
Yes, lemons roll off of every factory floor no matter what the brand.

I get the idea - through anecdotal observation of the forums - that the Defender is a pretty reliable vehicle if it gets past its first 10k miles without a hiccup. It seems that a certain percentage of them are just duds right from the factory - and if my vehicle threw a CEL like at 750 miles, I'd be on the phone to my sales representative immediately letting them know that the lemon law clock was ticking.
I lemoned M5 before but other than that, mostly Porsches, BMWs and a couple of Audis, I never had these many issues. I really really hope they can fix it so I can enjoy. I understand the love of this car as I love mine even though it does not work as it suppose to. It has its charm. I just want this machine to work so give proper love.
 
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