No Lift tire size guide (work in progress)
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I've finished going thru the last 10 pages of threads skimming and logging all the different reports. Contact the members if you want details or to confirm I didn't F' anything up before purchase....(you were warned), but here's all the tires reported in that size. If someone knows how to host the full XLS, I'll post it for the "Community Good".
Ping @JesseRohr - he had this setup and had no rub at any height, if I recall properly. BUT he had bad experience with the KO2's and went with Nitto's. I think I got that right. Confirm with him.
Ping @JesseRohr - he had this setup and had no rub at any height, if I recall properly. BUT he had bad experience with the KO2's and went with Nitto's. I think I got that right. Confirm with him.
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I've finished going thru the last 10 pages of threads skimming and logging all the different reports. Contact the members if you want details or to confirm I didn't F' anything up before purchase....(you were warned), but here's all the tires reported in that size. If someone knows how to host the full XLS, I'll post it for the "Community Good".
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I have no clue how anyone has gotten this size (275/55/20) to work with 30mm spacers on the front. I suspect that some may not be realizing there is rubbing, as the rubbing happens when the wheel is about half a turn back from full lock. So during install a visual inspection might look ok, even in access height. While driving you also may not notice anything in normal height either, as the rubbing is more of a light graze, perhaps my tires make this more noticeable than with KO2's. If you don't need access height you might be fine driving like this, as it is a very minor rub. But if you drive around in access height you will get significant rubbing. In access height at Half a turn back from full lock it was pushing pretty hard on the duct/vent holes in the front end of the wheel well lining. They are relatively soft plastic, so It won't bind up and might not break them right away, but it'll definitely cause damage over time. I can't imagine how a different tire of the same size would not rub in access height while actually driving around.
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Thanks, @Iceman153 . I think several times I saw different Members report different results with the same set up. I think it often gets down to the exact vehicle specs (air vs. coil) which often wasn't/isn't disclosed. Also, air pressure may come into play (regular v. light load). That's why I tried to capture everyone's experience. Some of them likely come with a lot of "it depends". If someone is on the edge, I recommend that they contact the member who posted the result to check before writing a check.
Edited with Iceman's latest results:
Edited with Iceman's latest results:
Last edited by GrouseK9; 10-19-2021 at 02:22 PM.
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Thanks, @Iceman153 . I think several times I saw different Members report different results with the same set up. I think it often gets down to the exact vehicle specs (air vs. coil) which often wasn't/isn't disclosed. Also, air pressure may come into play (regular v. light load). That's why I tried to capture everyone's experience. Some of them likely come with a lot of "it depends". If someone is on the edge, I recommend that they contact the member who posted the result to check before writing a check.
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I got a laugh reading your reply. It made me imagine that they don't notice slight/light rubbing because the increase in road noise makes them unaware of the rub! That may be true. They just don't notice it with the new more aggressive or louder tires. You may have something there.
The KO2's may actually not rub in normal height at low speed on flat ground given how mild my rubbing was. As you say, rubbing in more extreme conditions (which I bet there is) may be masked by the tire noise. However in access height I feel pretty confident guaranteeing that 275/55/20 with 30mm spacers will rub with any tire at any usable pressure. In my case it was pushing the lining back, wasn't even close.
Anyway, for those thinking of trying 30mm's on the front, I'd recommend buying one set of 30's, trying them on the front, and if they rub just buy a set of 25/20mm ones and move the 30's to the back. Don't be an idiot like me and buy both sets before you get the car only to find out they don't fit after you can't return them anymore :P
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I have a P400 SE and just did the Lucky8 caliper swap with Tuffant 18x8 wheels.
Tires are Toyo Open Country AT III LT265/70R18. The fronts just barely touch the liner at full lock in normal height. The diameter for these tires is 32.6 inches. I looked at Ridge Grapplers in LT265/70R18 and the diameter is 32.87 inches, so they would rub a little more.
If you're looking to go this route, note that there is very little clearance both front and back between the calipers and wheels, which can make the wheel balancing more difficult. The first shop I went to did not do a good job and the weights were hitting the calipers.
Tires are Toyo Open Country AT III LT265/70R18. The fronts just barely touch the liner at full lock in normal height. The diameter for these tires is 32.6 inches. I looked at Ridge Grapplers in LT265/70R18 and the diameter is 32.87 inches, so they would rub a little more.
If you're looking to go this route, note that there is very little clearance both front and back between the calipers and wheels, which can make the wheel balancing more difficult. The first shop I went to did not do a good job and the weights were hitting the calipers.
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