No Lift tire size guide (work in progress)
#71
#72
No lift rods. P400 with Lucky8 rear brake swap. Redbourne Alston 18” wheels. Nitto Ridge Grappler 265/70/18. Very minor rubbing only occasionally. So far so good. Tried other larger sizes but all rubbed too much. Don’t want to run lift rods. And the black lug nuts weren’t in when they did the install....so yes, I will have them in black.
#74
No Lift tire size guide
Very nice P400 with 18" wheels ! I'd love a Lucky8 rock sliders. They're nice and they'll protect the bottom of the car perfectly. The problem is how to get them to Europe specifically to the Czech Republic. If they did them in Nitra, I'd have a piece.
If anyone had any contact with the correct carrier for transport to Europe, I'd be delighted.
If anyone had any contact with the correct carrier for transport to Europe, I'd be delighted.
#76
Because usually if youre going to do anything challenging you are liable to lose the mud flaps and if you come down on the side steps those things will bend like pretzels and probably cause body damage.
Also the stuffed tires gives you slightly more ride height but takes that away in wheel articulation.
If youre just going to be doing hill climbs and dirt roads you will be fine, but be a little more careful rock crawling.
Nice truck.
Edit....Upon closer inspection what I thought were side steps appear to be rock rails...If so, disregard what I said about side steps although still a true statement just may not pertain to you.
Also the stuffed tires gives you slightly more ride height but takes that away in wheel articulation.
If youre just going to be doing hill climbs and dirt roads you will be fine, but be a little more careful rock crawling.
Nice truck.
Edit....Upon closer inspection what I thought were side steps appear to be rock rails...If so, disregard what I said about side steps although still a true statement just may not pertain to you.
Last edited by evomind; 03-18-2021 at 07:42 AM.
#77
Because usually if youre going to do anything challenging you are liable to lose the mud flaps and if you come down on the side steps those things will bend like pretzels and probably cause body damage.
Also the stuffed tires gives you slightly more ride height but takes that away in wheel articulation.
If youre just going to be doing hill climbs and dirt roads you will be fine, but be a little more careful rock crawling.
Nice truck.
Also the stuffed tires gives you slightly more ride height but takes that away in wheel articulation.
If youre just going to be doing hill climbs and dirt roads you will be fine, but be a little more careful rock crawling.
Nice truck.
#78
I’ve been off-roading and overlanding for many years. I’ve had Jeep’s and raptors. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. You’ve also not seen the rock sliders in person. Their purpose is to take the abuse so the defender itself isn’t damaged. They are incredibly stout. Even more so than any I’ve had on Jeep’s. I wouldn’t do more than dirt roads without them. They are a necessity if you want to take this off-road. I’ve built this rig in such a way as to maximize its off-road potential. I have no idea what you’re talking about. And don’t forget, the new defender isn’t meant to be a rock crawler. If I wanted that, I would have bought another Jeep.
Youre getting upset over something I already corrected.
Touchy.
So you dont rock crawl so the mud flaps aren't an issue. Great!
Im still waiting for the part where I dont know what Im talking about.
Relax dude.
#79
Come on, gentlemen. No need to get cranky.
@evomind, I think the issue may be that you’re unaware of the multi-height air suspension of the truck? The pics are of the truck in the lower height. I can confirm that there is full articulation and plenty of clearance in the off-road height for that particular tire size.
@Guapo, would you consider posting a few pics of the truck in the off-road height to illustrate my point?
And for the record, a Defender 2 out of the box will definitely give a Rubicon out of the box a run for it’s money rockcrawling. It might throw it’s *** up more, and take a paw off the ground, but it will get it done. Now, a lifted JL rig with 37’s and armor? Okay, sure, that’s an easy call to make. But take that same JL and ask it to compete in overland? Or simply up and down a steep sand and loose rock stretch? Or tight (shorter than body length) muddy rollers? Not a chance- that’s D2 every time. So both trucks have their strengths and weaknesses off-road.
@evomind, I think the issue may be that you’re unaware of the multi-height air suspension of the truck? The pics are of the truck in the lower height. I can confirm that there is full articulation and plenty of clearance in the off-road height for that particular tire size.
@Guapo, would you consider posting a few pics of the truck in the off-road height to illustrate my point?
And for the record, a Defender 2 out of the box will definitely give a Rubicon out of the box a run for it’s money rockcrawling. It might throw it’s *** up more, and take a paw off the ground, but it will get it done. Now, a lifted JL rig with 37’s and armor? Okay, sure, that’s an easy call to make. But take that same JL and ask it to compete in overland? Or simply up and down a steep sand and loose rock stretch? Or tight (shorter than body length) muddy rollers? Not a chance- that’s D2 every time. So both trucks have their strengths and weaknesses off-road.
Last edited by TheLittleEngineThatCould; 03-18-2021 at 02:28 PM.
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#80
Come on, gentlemen. No need to get cranky.
@evomind, I think the issue may be that you’re unaware of the multi-height air suspension of the truck? The pics are of the truck in the lower height. I can confirm that there is full articulation and plenty of clearance in the off-road height for that particular tire size.
@Guapo, would you consider posting a few pics of the truck in the off-road height to illustrate my point?
And for the record, a Defender 2 out of the box will definitely give a Rubicon out of the box a run for it’s money rockcrawling. It might throw it’s *** up more, and take a paw off the ground, but it will get it done. Now, a lifted JL rig with 37’s and armor? Okay, sure, that’s an easy call to make. But take that same JL and ask it to compete in overland? Or simply up and down a steep sand and loose rock stretch? Or tight (shorter than body length) muddy rollers? Not a chance- that’s D2 every time. So both trucks have their strengths and weaknesses off-road.
@evomind, I think the issue may be that you’re unaware of the multi-height air suspension of the truck? The pics are of the truck in the lower height. I can confirm that there is full articulation and plenty of clearance in the off-road height for that particular tire size.
@Guapo, would you consider posting a few pics of the truck in the off-road height to illustrate my point?
And for the record, a Defender 2 out of the box will definitely give a Rubicon out of the box a run for it’s money rockcrawling. It might throw it’s *** up more, and take a paw off the ground, but it will get it done. Now, a lifted JL rig with 37’s and armor? Okay, sure, that’s an easy call to make. But take that same JL and ask it to compete in overland? Or simply up and down a steep sand and loose rock stretch? Or tight (shorter than body length) muddy rollers? Not a chance- that’s D2 every time. So both trucks have their strengths and weaknesses off-road.
I know all about the air suspension and capabilities of the truck. Ill be buying one for the mrs this summer.
Really all I said was that you will lose the mud flaps if you rock crawl. True statement.
I thought at first glance he had step rails. Anyone who off roads knows step rails and mud flaps are the first to go. lol. A closer look and I realized he had rock rails. Geez, so shoot me.
Larger wheels will or may reduce articulation, LR didnt give us enough room in the wheel wells to do a whole lot with tire sizes. Again true statement.
I agree, out of the box I think the defender is just as capable as a rubicon. True, the rubi was designed for aftermarket support and you can do much more from that platform with aftermarket, defender not so much. Unless youre really hard core its not an issue.
So I dont think gordo had as much as a factual argument with me, I just dont think he liked what I said.