2020 Defender Talk about the new 2020 Land Rover Defender
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Question on GAP Tool

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 2, 2023 | 08:44 AM
  #1  
ficklma1's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Mudding
Joined: Sep 2022
Posts: 112
Likes: 33
From: NC
Default Question on GAP Tool

In the GAP Tool I'm familiar with how to set the 3 different custom settings to particular heights.

However what I'm trying to understand is the behavior of the Height Adjustment once a custom setting is set for example +5 and saved and programmed -- what does that actually do? Is it
temporary or does it consistently have +5 on all height settings?

For example +5 on Access Height, +5 on Normal Height and +5 on Off-Road Height? If I shut off the vehicle, does it still retain the +5 until I save/program back to "Default" setting?

Unfortunately I don't think I've found a solid answer on the behavior and what to expect.

hoping you can help answer these questions?

Thanks!
 

Last edited by ficklma1; Aug 2, 2023 at 09:02 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2023 | 10:19 AM
  #2  
nashvegas's Avatar
TReK
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,774
Likes: 1,983
From: Whidbey Island, PNW
Default

I cannot answer but I have wondered the same thing / couldn't figure it out myself. Great question.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2023 | 10:24 AM
  #3  
ficklma1's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Mudding
Joined: Sep 2022
Posts: 112
Likes: 33
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by nashvegas
I cannot answer but I have wondered the same thing / couldn't figure it out myself. Great question.
Thanks nashvagas. Another general question to forum members, I was trying to @tag stevemfr, but couldn't figure out how to do that, as I think he could answer this question.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2023 | 09:05 PM
  #4  
nashvegas's Avatar
TReK
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,774
Likes: 1,983
From: Whidbey Island, PNW
Default

@stevemfr you've been summonsed ! (see above)
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2023 | 11:26 AM
  #5  
ORDPA's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 167
Likes: 113
Default

Originally Posted by ficklma1
In the GAP Tool For example +5 on Access Height, +5 on Normal Height and +5 on Off-Road Height? If I shut off the vehicle, does it still retain the +5 until I save/program back to "Default" setting? !
I will answer what I was told but honestly have not tested as I have lifting rods already and this has not been a priority for me with the GAP tool yet. I have been busy figuring out other items such as Advanced Tow Assist and Adaptive Driving Beam. Before I purchased mine I called Lucky8 and asked about the lift feature. I was told that a change would apply to all three level settings sort of like a lift rod does. I believe based on our conversation that you description quoted above is correct. It is permanent until you adjust again and apply as you stated. I will try and test today as I have a few other items I am messing with already.
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2023 | 04:44 PM
  #6  
ORDPA's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 167
Likes: 113
Default

Did some testing and it looks like it works as described. You can see the deafault settings for your vehicle in the Height Control section which allows you to determine total amount of change available for your vehicle. This is outlined in the manual and works as described.

As for programming a new height there are three available setting plus the default setting. After selecting one you can adjust the entire vehicle at once or seperate the front from the rear. I adjusted just the front as I was wanting to eliminate some of the rake from the front to the rear plus with the bigger tires my rub areas are in the front not the rear. There was about an inch difference in measured height front to rear. I added height to the front changing it 13mm roughly a half inch then applied the setting. Once applied the car is now set to setting 1 and has remained in that setting following several driving cycles. Based on this result I would think you could set up the three settings for different conditions then apply them using the GAP tool when you need them. The selected setting would remain the active setting until you tell the vehicle to change to a different setting once again using the GAP tool. I hope all that is clear and maybe others will respond if they have further or different info.
 
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2023 | 01:46 PM
  #7  
stevemfr's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Sep 2022
Posts: 159
Likes: 185
Default

Sorry. I was on vacation in Tuscany the past couple of weeks.

Yes, the height changes apply to all height settings from access to off-road. LR's EAS software made separate height changes impossible as of the introduction of the LR3. I still have an early L322 Range Rover on which I can change every setting individually. We thought about implementing a revised software for the EAS but it's simply not worth the time (cost). That's why there are 3 height setting memory slots.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 03:32 PM
  #8  
Kaylorsan's Avatar
Drifting
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 35
Likes: 17
Default

Originally Posted by ficklma1
In the GAP Tool I'm familiar with how to set the 3 different custom settings to particular heights.

However what I'm trying to understand is the behavior of the Height Adjustment once a custom setting is set for example +5 and saved and programmed -- what does that actually do? Is it
temporary or does it consistently have +5 on all height settings?

For example +5 on Access Height, +5 on Normal Height and +5 on Off-Road Height? If I shut off the vehicle, does it still retain the +5 until I save/program back to "Default" setting?

Unfortunately I don't think I've found a solid answer on the behavior and what to expect.

hoping you can help answer these questions?

Thanks!
@ficklma1, Did you ever get it figured out and dialed in? I'm running into the same issues and haven't found a clear answer. I figured I'd check the Forum before playing around with it much more.
I'm looking only to change the Access Height. I would like to lower that, however keep the Normal and Off-Road as is. Can that be done? The manual seems to state that all modes are adjusted by the same amount.

...For height changes, the function allows changing either front, rear, or all corners simultaneously. These changes will also affect the other modes as the standard height is the reference point. For example, if the standard mode is lowered by 10 mm, access mode, motorway, and off-road heights will also be 10 mm lower....
 

Last edited by Kaylorsan; Sep 7, 2024 at 03:47 PM. Reason: additional info
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 07:08 PM
  #9  
GavinC's Avatar
TReK
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 2,564
Likes: 3,632
From: Kirkland WA
Default

Gap tool behaves exactly like having a lift rod installed.

The change is as long lasting as you want it to be. Minutes or months.

A physical rod leaves the software unchanged and alters hardware. GAP eLift changes the software leaving the hardware unchanged.

unlike a lift rod you can install it and uninstall it as needed in seconds.

unlike a lift rod it has not one but many possible height settings. Lift or lower as needed.

like a lift rod it is unaffected by turning vehicle on or off.

in short. It is an eLift where the user decides how much of a lift/lower and for how long.

Lift rods are essentially obsolete with GAP. As is LLAMS.

incredibly useful tool.
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2024 | 06:41 AM
  #10  
Defendit..'s Avatar
Winching
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 635
Likes: 553
Default

@GavinC



Lift rods are essentially obsolete with GAP. As is LLAMS.

incredibly useful tool.
Quote

I agree that lift rods are obsolete with the GAP IIDTool
I do not agree to put the LLams in the same order.
Driving through France at the moment I do use the LLams all the time, depending on road quality, fast curving roads, bumps in villages, exxxtra low for camping , high obstackles. All with Just a turn on the selector **** within 5-7 seconds set
Just my 2.cts
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:35 PM.