Any ideas?
#1
Any ideas?
Been driving my rover all summer in Houston with no issues, the day before I leave to go back to Indiana this starts happening:
Engine knock - YouTube
Its been about 50 miles since I did the oil change, 15w-40 Rotella with M-301 filter, but I don't see how this could be causing any issue. I drove it around earlier today, parked it for about an hour, went out to move it and thats when the sound started. No oil or check engine light.
My summer lease is up tomorrow so if theres nothing I can do by then I'll be selling it for whatever I can and buying a plane ticket back to school. If I had more time I would tear it apart but at this point I'm hoping there is something obvious I can fix. In the meantime I'll keep looking through the forums to see if there is anything that I can try that could help.
Engine knock - YouTube
Its been about 50 miles since I did the oil change, 15w-40 Rotella with M-301 filter, but I don't see how this could be causing any issue. I drove it around earlier today, parked it for about an hour, went out to move it and thats when the sound started. No oil or check engine light.
My summer lease is up tomorrow so if theres nothing I can do by then I'll be selling it for whatever I can and buying a plane ticket back to school. If I had more time I would tear it apart but at this point I'm hoping there is something obvious I can fix. In the meantime I'll keep looking through the forums to see if there is anything that I can try that could help.
#3
Well I drove it to the parts store and the noise was gone, if it was a spun bearing I don't think it would be possible for it to go away. It probably wouldn't have even made it out of the parking lot...
I don't know if it makes a difference but I was using 10w-40 before but I don't see how a heavier oil would cause this.
At this point I have two options:
- Drive it to IN with my fingers crossed, I've got AAA so if I broke down I'd get towed to the nearest town, take the crap I can and sell the stuff I can't with the rover and buy a plane ticket
- Sell it here, along with whatever I can't ship, and fly
At least with the first option I have a chance of keeping my stuff...
I don't know if it makes a difference but I was using 10w-40 before but I don't see how a heavier oil would cause this.
At this point I have two options:
- Drive it to IN with my fingers crossed, I've got AAA so if I broke down I'd get towed to the nearest town, take the crap I can and sell the stuff I can't with the rover and buy a plane ticket
- Sell it here, along with whatever I can't ship, and fly
At least with the first option I have a chance of keeping my stuff...
#4
Mine sounded very similar, but not as loud. It turned out to be the alternator bearings. I had no other alternator symptoms. I bought a mechanics stethoscope for around $10. Good luck.
Edit: I may have jumped the gun, I rewatched/listened to the vid I took of my issue. Mine was higher pitched and faster.
Edit: I may have jumped the gun, I rewatched/listened to the vid I took of my issue. Mine was higher pitched and faster.
Last edited by bcbp; 08-11-2012 at 06:43 PM.
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Is it the original oil pump?
They have been known to basically crack around the pump element.
I would give it a try, carry extra oil, maybe throw in an additive like STP or somwthing. Or even use straight 30w or 40w, what do you have to lose at this point.
Lots of people use 20w50 Castrol GTX.
Can you put an oil meter on and check oil PSI?
They have been known to basically crack around the pump element.
I would give it a try, carry extra oil, maybe throw in an additive like STP or somwthing. Or even use straight 30w or 40w, what do you have to lose at this point.
Lots of people use 20w50 Castrol GTX.
Can you put an oil meter on and check oil PSI?
#7
Unfortunately I won't have time to check PSI, funny thing is I was going to install a permanent gauge this summer but decided to wait until I got back home...
I was actually thinking about going back to the 10w-40, as this is the only thing that has changed from yesterday to today. Another reason I think it may be an oil issue is that it is only there at idle. If it is reved up the knock goes away. Maybe the pump is having to work harder with the thicker oil, and if it's on its last leg this could be too much for it to handle?
I was actually thinking about going back to the 10w-40, as this is the only thing that has changed from yesterday to today. Another reason I think it may be an oil issue is that it is only there at idle. If it is reved up the knock goes away. Maybe the pump is having to work harder with the thicker oil, and if it's on its last leg this could be too much for it to handle?
#8
Just ran it with the belt off, noise was still there. Used a screw driver to listen in a few different spots, seemed to be loudest on the LH valve cover, no noise when listening on the oil pan, some noise when listening on the center of the plenum. Thinking maybe the top end isn't getting enough love from the oil
#9
Change filter (first). The 10W vs 15W is not making the difference, the oil heats up and is 40W. Try this filter, Purolator L40316. It is a jumbo filter, holds more oil, and has lower loss media inside. It has been shown to increase oil PSI in write ups by working pro shop mechanics. Changing oil every 5000 miles and filter is a good idea of course. Your oil light should go out in just a few seconds at start up, if not, you could also have a restricted oil cooler, or pickup screen is fuzzed up, pickup tube O-ring shot (sucking wind), etc. These impact the suction side of the pump system. If you don't have time for a pressure test you don't have time to drop oil pan.
Pix shows rocker arms at 190K with Castrol and Rotella, good oil change schedule; and some that "skipped it" this month.
BTW, I have had the pleasure of working for a Civil PE for the last ten years (geotech) who is a Boilermaker, and they turn out some smart dudes. Soak up all you can.
Pix shows rocker arms at 190K with Castrol and Rotella, good oil change schedule; and some that "skipped it" this month.
BTW, I have had the pleasure of working for a Civil PE for the last ten years (geotech) who is a Boilermaker, and they turn out some smart dudes. Soak up all you can.
Last edited by Savannah Buzz; 08-12-2012 at 06:55 AM.
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