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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 04:35 PM
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My 1996 Discovery 1 4.0 V8 GEMS has developed a persistent hiccup while cruising 60 mph. Only begins after 2 hours or so on the road. When it happens I will get several with no regularity and the series will last about an hour. After the car has been off and cooled it is back to running smoothly. Recently replaced fuel pump and filter and new sparkplugs. Fuel pressure is 30psi @ 750 rpm. MAS has been cleaned.

It's a good runner although very rusty. I do a lot of long trips so lots of hwy driving.

No codes and drive shafts feel tight although they clunk shifting into gear.

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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 10:08 PM
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sounds like maybe the VSS or wires to VSS. An OBDII tool that reads live data will show the VSS output.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jimvw57
sounds like maybe the VSS or wires to VSS. An OBDII tool that rads live data will show the VSS output.
Thanks. I'll give that a try. First I'll need a new scanner good for rovers.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 09:15 AM
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I have an Autel that supports most models, works fine on my D1. (MS 509) also shows Land Rover specific codes among others. a good all purpose scanner for around $150 (or less) I got it to troubleshoot my Chev Safari a few hundred years ago and been using it on all my other cars since I got rid of the Chevy
 

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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 11:31 AM
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Good tip.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 11:58 AM
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VSS / CPS etc.

LR is all about weak sensors
 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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A live data reader is best to troubleshoot the VSS. Or, in the case of the VSS you can simply unplug it and the problem should disappear (but you will lose the speedo).

see here for live OBD data.... https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...02/#post581013

My VSS problem looked like this (the bottom number on the smart phone is the reading for mph).... https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...98/#post568866

the real time data makes it appear that the truck is travelling in excess of 112mph and the ECU starts shutting down cylinders to protect the engine.

A bad VSS is not likely to throw an error code.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WaltNYC
A live data reader is best to troubleshoot the VSS. Or, in the case of the VSS you can simply unplug it and the problem should disappear (but you will lose the speedo).

see here for live OBD data.... https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...02/#post581013

My VSS problem looked like this (the bottom number on the smart phone is the reading for mph).... https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...98/#post568866

the real time data makes it appear that the truck is travelling in excess of 112mph and the ECU starts shutting down cylinders to protect the engine.

A bad VSS is not likely to throw an error code.
i believe you will lose the odometer also.

when i unplugged the VSS on my '96 the odometer stopped moving. once the replacement came in the mail and i installed it the speedometer and odometer started working again.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 09:59 PM
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my tip for LR Disco 1 owners

replace the VSS and CPS regardless of their function - maybe every 60K mile service
 
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 02:39 AM
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update: Disconnected the VSS and continue with the intermittent loss of power. The speedo and odometer did stop working. Is this just a "keep replacing" situation?
 
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