New Engine?
#1
New Engine?
Okay guys,
I have a 97 Disco, in the past couple months it has developed some engines problems. And my mechanic advised me to sell it and cut my losses, because he said it was going to cost me upwards of $1500 for him to do "exploratory surgery" to find out what's wrong, not to mention fixing it. Needless to say I was in no way inclined to sell it. I love my Disco and have spent too much money to sell it now. I was wanting to know if anyone knew of any conversion kits for GM engines. I just want an engine that will be more familiar with my mechanic and that would be more affordable to repair, should the occasion arise. I would really appreciate some help. I am leaving for college here in a couples weeks and would like to have the Rover ready to go.
Thanks
I have a 97 Disco, in the past couple months it has developed some engines problems. And my mechanic advised me to sell it and cut my losses, because he said it was going to cost me upwards of $1500 for him to do "exploratory surgery" to find out what's wrong, not to mention fixing it. Needless to say I was in no way inclined to sell it. I love my Disco and have spent too much money to sell it now. I was wanting to know if anyone knew of any conversion kits for GM engines. I just want an engine that will be more familiar with my mechanic and that would be more affordable to repair, should the occasion arise. I would really appreciate some help. I am leaving for college here in a couples weeks and would like to have the Rover ready to go.
Thanks
#5
If all your mechanic is doing is giving you vague generalities, you may need to get a new mechanic that can give you specifics. Shouldn't need to tear down the engine to figure out what's wrong with it, except in rare circumstances. First off, like the other guys suggested, describe the problems you are having. Some great knowledge here.
Secondly, changing to a GM engine would almost surely cost a lot more than fixing what you already have and may not be anymore reliable after you hack the wiring all apart and modify mounts/brackets to make it fit and work. Thirdly, tell your mechanic that it IS a GM engine. It's the same engine that GM put in countless Buicks and Olds in the early 60's. Rover bought it from GM, made a bunch of iimprovements over the years. But it's the same basic GM small block, designed right there in Dearborn MI. If your mechanic knew his stuff, he'd know that ...or figure it out by looking at it or any research into it. So, there, you just saved yourself a boatload of money converting it over to a GM engine.
I don't know your mechanic but it sounds to me like your mechanic is not comfortable with electronic controls and a wide range of engines. The fact is, it's OBD standard (computer/emission type) translates across manufacturer and makes that are OBD compliant (yours is). Any mechanic that would suggest replacing the engine to one that he 'understands' is more of a shade-tree dude IMO. If that's the case, I think you should start looking for a different guy that understands your vehicle and modern electronic controls.
Secondly, changing to a GM engine would almost surely cost a lot more than fixing what you already have and may not be anymore reliable after you hack the wiring all apart and modify mounts/brackets to make it fit and work. Thirdly, tell your mechanic that it IS a GM engine. It's the same engine that GM put in countless Buicks and Olds in the early 60's. Rover bought it from GM, made a bunch of iimprovements over the years. But it's the same basic GM small block, designed right there in Dearborn MI. If your mechanic knew his stuff, he'd know that ...or figure it out by looking at it or any research into it. So, there, you just saved yourself a boatload of money converting it over to a GM engine.
I don't know your mechanic but it sounds to me like your mechanic is not comfortable with electronic controls and a wide range of engines. The fact is, it's OBD standard (computer/emission type) translates across manufacturer and makes that are OBD compliant (yours is). Any mechanic that would suggest replacing the engine to one that he 'understands' is more of a shade-tree dude IMO. If that's the case, I think you should start looking for a different guy that understands your vehicle and modern electronic controls.
Last edited by Mark G; 08-13-2010 at 10:57 AM.
#6
I'm sure when this "mechanic" suggested swapping to a GM engine he was referring to a 350 V8 since apparently that's the only V8 in the world. Or maybe the world just revolves around the 350, I can never keep it straight.
Seriously though Prevention, when maintained these are good, reliable engines. Even with a leaking water pump and head gaskets starting to fail my 97 survived 2 days stuck in a blizzard and the 500 mile drive home once the roads opened. There is no reason to swap the engine with something else until you know for sure what's going on with the current engine. And any swap for something with more power could cause a lot more problems in the form of exploding differentials. The transmission and t-case will take the power but the spider gears won't like it at all. Unless you're planning on upgrading your drivetrain too you far better to stick with the current engine or an exact replacement.
Seriously though Prevention, when maintained these are good, reliable engines. Even with a leaking water pump and head gaskets starting to fail my 97 survived 2 days stuck in a blizzard and the 500 mile drive home once the roads opened. There is no reason to swap the engine with something else until you know for sure what's going on with the current engine. And any swap for something with more power could cause a lot more problems in the form of exploding differentials. The transmission and t-case will take the power but the spider gears won't like it at all. Unless you're planning on upgrading your drivetrain too you far better to stick with the current engine or an exact replacement.
#7
I'm with these guys. Wait and see what is actually going on before you just start dropping big money to get a new engine. Any swap besides a LR V8 or 200 or 300tdi (LR diesel engines) is going to be a nightmare to get to work right. It can be done (I saw a chevy 350 crate motor swap into a DI once before) but the guy said it came in around 12,000 I think by the time he got everything taken care of.
#8
I would sooner see it grenade and swap in a used one from one of the many of these being parted out, like for like. I recently saw on craigslist a complete motor/tranny/diff for $400. I almost bought it just to throw in a corner of my garage.
Find a reputable LR mechanic and see what it would cost to either fix or drop in a known good used engine. Probably come in around $1000 swapped.
Find a reputable LR mechanic and see what it would cost to either fix or drop in a known good used engine. Probably come in around $1000 swapped.
#9
#10
i think you should ask the mechanic to swap his brain out for a brain from a mechanic that knows something about automobile engines. it will be more effective for future customers who are stuck dealing with him and will save his business in the long run....
in all seriousness do you have a check engine light on? is it making any particular noises or sounds? is it stalling? explain what the problems you have are so we can help you. and another thing, where are you located? there might be someone close that is more qualified to help you than your current neanderthal
in all seriousness do you have a check engine light on? is it making any particular noises or sounds? is it stalling? explain what the problems you have are so we can help you. and another thing, where are you located? there might be someone close that is more qualified to help you than your current neanderthal