P1177, low idle, stalling.
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Rough idle *might* be due to the idle control solenoid and it might not, rough idle can also be caused by several other sensors gone wild. The MAF, top O2's, Crank Sensor, Cam Sensor, Injectors, Coils and so on...... it could even be the ECU that's kaput and no matter what part you throw at it it may not stick.
I know you have a basic knowledge of what sensor might be the trouble but in the end the cost of you replacing what you *think* is wrong and what is actually wrong is could be causing you to spend the same amount or more as a shop would charge for a diagnostic and reset on the ECU.
The what the what is getting it running well enough to get it motivating, maybe the replacement MAF might do it. The Idle Control solenoid port will need to be gently cleaned in order for the pintle to seat firmly closed and depth wise. That means the port will need to be cleaned down to bare aluminum, no black crusty carbon at all. Whatever you use to clean it with can't leave deep scratches on the seat otherwise you've wasted your time.
Needs to be bright and smooth. Setting the new pintle length is the other issue. When changing a bad solenoid with a clean port seat it's easy to match the new pintle length to the old one. When you have a carbon crusted seat and try to match the new to the old solenoid it's a guessing game to how much further you need to turn the pintle out to compensate for the carbon that's been hammered on the seat. The ECU actually adjusts the length of the idle control solenoid on it's own, there is a screw shaft and the bulk of the idle control solenoid is actually a small motor that rotates the screw shaft. So for some guys, if the seat is clean and they adjust the pintle approximately to the old the ECU will turn the screw a smudge to finish the adjustment. Bet you didn't know that?
Why would someone be calling out a part without knowing what it does and how to set it? I merely referenced cleaning it as part of some maintenance I'm doing while I wait for wires, etc.
Checked the PCV valve last night and cleaned the tubes. It was lovely of you to suggest that at the finish of this hopefully cathartic post.
#22
Lets just bash ihscouts today!!!
I have to say ihscouts knows his ****. I would not have a rover today if it was not for him and a few others. He personally helped me out and now i have a truck that runs just like new. With out him i would have never been able to rebuild my engine, I had it all the way down to bare block and back.
Just take a step back back for a few days clear your head and jump back into it. Something is being over looked like Vacuum leak, Pressure regulator, Fuel pump connector behind drivers side rear wheel, failing multi function relay, or air idle control valve needs to be removed and have the plunger and port cleaned.
I have to say ihscouts knows his ****. I would not have a rover today if it was not for him and a few others. He personally helped me out and now i have a truck that runs just like new. With out him i would have never been able to rebuild my engine, I had it all the way down to bare block and back.
Just take a step back back for a few days clear your head and jump back into it. Something is being over looked like Vacuum leak, Pressure regulator, Fuel pump connector behind drivers side rear wheel, failing multi function relay, or air idle control valve needs to be removed and have the plunger and port cleaned.
#23
Pidge, I believe you are mis-interpreting things. I'm sure you are frustrated but you are working against your own interests.
I have no horse in the race but over the many years reading this forum I have come to form opinions about many of the folks that post and, for the most part, have concluded that most come here from a place of good-will. ihscouts is among those I'd put at the top of that list.
Take a breath.
I have no horse in the race but over the many years reading this forum I have come to form opinions about many of the folks that post and, for the most part, have concluded that most come here from a place of good-will. ihscouts is among those I'd put at the top of that list.
Take a breath.
#24
I replied to his whole post completely appropriately. That it contained a lot of weird stuff is not my problem.My reply is fair and neutral.I respectfully disabused him of a lot of assumptions he made, I commented on the things he wanted to bring on me that are common to literally everyone here, and I thanked him for the one piece of information that reflects what people do here.
You all take a breath! I've received numerous private messages telling me to have strength when he bears down on people, and I ignored them. This is simply a back-and-forth, and my responses were utterly appropriate. He's a big boy. He can read a response to his post.
Did you all misinterpret a tone in MY post, as you accuse me of doing to him? Then maybe you see how that works??
You have no need to pile on.
You all take a breath! I've received numerous private messages telling me to have strength when he bears down on people, and I ignored them. This is simply a back-and-forth, and my responses were utterly appropriate. He's a big boy. He can read a response to his post.
Did you all misinterpret a tone in MY post, as you accuse me of doing to him? Then maybe you see how that works??
You have no need to pile on.
Last edited by pidge; 10-30-2017 at 09:19 AM.
#25
I'm abandoning this thread because it's just bullying on top of condescending mansplaining, despite my attempt to respond to That Post to get it back to a discussion of auto issues.
Per this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...en-warm-51237/
this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/ge...7-p1179-69565/
Though NOT per this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...raining-49975/
Nor this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...-sensor-72883/
This one https://landroverforums.com/forum/ge...t-wrong-67746/
Future readers with these codes, start with your pump. I'd honestly say ignore all the talk about CkPS on this. These particular symptoms don't ever result in a post saying, "THAT FIXED IT!" Check and clean spark process, check and clean vacuum (including PCV), check and clean MAF and air filter, check and clean pump and filter and pump wiring, including at the rear wheel and at the ECU. GOOD LUCK!
Per this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...en-warm-51237/
this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/ge...7-p1179-69565/
Though NOT per this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...raining-49975/
Nor this post https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...-sensor-72883/
This one https://landroverforums.com/forum/ge...t-wrong-67746/
Future readers with these codes, start with your pump. I'd honestly say ignore all the talk about CkPS on this. These particular symptoms don't ever result in a post saying, "THAT FIXED IT!" Check and clean spark process, check and clean vacuum (including PCV), check and clean MAF and air filter, check and clean pump and filter and pump wiring, including at the rear wheel and at the ECU. GOOD LUCK!
#26
wow. that went south fast.
i see you are cross posting on DiscoWeb. if you think the responses you received here were rough (i don't but i'm a man so i'm probably missing something) then tread lightly over at that site.
overall, i have found this forum to be very polite and helpful. scout can be rough around the edges at times but i went back and read and reread what he wrote and i'm just not seeing the tone, condescension and disdain you are inferring.
regardless, hope you get the issue with your rover fixed.
i see you are cross posting on DiscoWeb. if you think the responses you received here were rough (i don't but i'm a man so i'm probably missing something) then tread lightly over at that site.
overall, i have found this forum to be very polite and helpful. scout can be rough around the edges at times but i went back and read and reread what he wrote and i'm just not seeing the tone, condescension and disdain you are inferring.
regardless, hope you get the issue with your rover fixed.
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