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Old 08-16-2010, 08:00 AM
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As always, before you do anything disconnect the negative battery terminal as the starter is in a really cramped spot with the positive and negative really close together. If you get a ratchet anywhere near the solenoid with both terminals still on, you're gonna get a shock (TRUST ME).

The starter is located on the passenger side of the motor underneath the exhaust manifold and a heat shield that protects the Starter and starter solenoid
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(here you can see the exhaust manifold below the plug wires, the heat shield for the starter just below that (bent away from its clip) and the frame rail below that)
The heat shield pulls right away from the solenoid, its only fixed with a spring clip so it comes on and off easily.

From the underside it looks like this.
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here you see the hole for the starter as I had already taken it out, the positive wire for the starter positive post and the ignition relay wire are in the left foreground, relay
wire is smaller, positive from the battery is obviously the larger. The ground cable is in the right background near the hole for the starter gear. It’s the braided cable.

They attach to the starter here
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The main positive wire attaches to the post on the far left ( I believe it’s a 13mm socket), ignition relay attaches to the clip above it, you can see the solder point better than the clip itself and the ground cable attaches to the upper hex bolt that holds the starter in place.
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The starter slides out and in the same way (in this picture im actually putting it in backwards, you want the bell housing to go in first so that the terminals are facing the front of the truck), through the gap underneath between the junk here, I don’t remember exactly what is what (feel free to edit for clarity)
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Once the starter is in, you can finger tighten the hex head bolts to hold it in place. Here is the starter with the bottom hex bolt, finger tight and the ground cable off. Also you can see the battery cable is looped over the starter post ready to be tightened down. You also want to hook up the ignition relay for the solenoid before doing the battery positive as the relay is a clip that will be tough to get at after the positive line has been torqued down.
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Here's a closer look
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I chose to tighten the hex bolts before I went after the battery cable connection, for the bottom bolt you can run an extension about 24” to get ahead of the front axel which gives you much more space to torque the bolt and just work your wrench in general. This is the view from the top of engine compartment of me torquing the top hex bolt with the ground cable in place.
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to give you an idea, this is how much extension I used.
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Going after the bottom hex bolt is the same as going after the starter positive post, except instead of a hex , the positive post is a 13mm socket. You want to use the adjustable angle adapter (from the previous pics) for the socket and run about 24” of extension to get you out in front of the pumpkin with your ratchet. So once you’ve got your two hex bolts (the top one including the ground cable) and your starter cable all bolted up and the solenoid relay clipped on, you’re ready to go. Don’t forget to push your heat shield clip back onto the solenoid as well.

Congrats, you just replaced your starter.
 

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Old 08-16-2010, 09:21 AM
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For anyone needing a starter I highly recommend the Nipon Denso gear reduction start from BritishStarters.com.
Cheaper than OEM, free shipping and lifetime warranty.

Also, replacing the starter is a good time to run a longer ground wire and tie it in at the same point where the battery ground attaches to the chassis.

Good write-up, though the photos are a bit large.
 
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:17 AM
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Yeah, that was the lower resolution of my two digital cameras. I guess for the next time i'll have to go in and dial down the rez even further. Sorry for that.
 
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Also, i would NOT recommend the refurb unit i bought through Advanced, i put one in in december and then ended up replacing it again in may or june. So who knows how long i'll get out of this one, although they have limited lifetime too.
 
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:31 AM
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Yeah, the difference is that Denso is a quality starter to begin with, plus they are a gear reduction so don't work as hard for faster spins.
 
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Good write up, going to tackle my Disco Stater tomorrow, my car has been stranded at my marina since Saturday. And talk about a thread revival
 
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do you have to take the propeller shaft apart at the flange and remove the oxygen sensor? Or do just what you say here? (Looking at page 866 RAVE manual)

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Never seen this thread before but....... its not great.
You don't need to remove the driveshaft or the oxygen sensor.
The starter is held in place with two allen socket cap screws. This guy is using a Torx bit!!!!
Start by removing the heat shield and tossing it in the garbage can.
Then you need to get into the head of those two socket cap screws with a pick and remove ALL the debris if you want any chance of not stripping out the heads. Place the hex/allen bit into the screws and tap it home gently with a hammer. Use whatever combination of extensions needed to get as straight a shot at the screw as possible.
Toss those socket cap screws in the garbage too. Replace them with regular old 3/8 hex cap screws(normal bolts). Use a 3" or 4" bolt and use large nuts as spacers between the bolt head and the starter. The idea here is to move the end of the bolt into a position that's easily accessible so that all you need in the future is a single combination wrench to pull the starter(no sockets or hodge podge of extensions.
 
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Yeah, I agree. Lots of misinformation. Even the heat shield can be a PITA if you don't know there's 10mm bolt securing it at the right motor support. The head of the bolt is usually covered in greasy buildup. It's #2 on the diagram.
 
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Originally Posted by turf63
As always, before you do anything disconnect the negative battery terminal as the starter is in a really cramped spot with the positive and negative really close together. If you get a ratchet anywhere near the solenoid with both terminals still on, you're gonna get a shock (TRUST ME).

The starter is located on the passenger side of the motor underneath the exhaust manifold and a heat shield that protects the Starter and starter solenoid
Attachment 46867
(here you can see the exhaust manifold below the plug wires, the heat shield for the starter just below that (bent away from its clip) and the frame rail below that)
The heat shield pulls right away from the solenoid, its only fixed with a spring clip so it comes on and off easily.

From the underside it looks like this.
Attachment 46868
here you see the hole for the starter as I had already taken it out, the positive wire for the starter positive post and the ignition relay wire are in the left foreground, relay
wire is smaller, positive from the battery is obviously the larger. The ground cable is in the right background near the hole for the starter gear. It’s the braided cable.

They attach to the starter here
Attachment 46869
The main positive wire attaches to the post on the far left ( I believe it’s a 13mm socket), ignition relay attaches to the clip above it, you can see the solder point better than the clip itself and the ground cable attaches to the upper hex bolt that holds the starter in place.
Attachment 46870
The starter slides out and in the same way (in this picture im actually putting it in backwards, you want the bell housing to go in first so that the terminals are facing the front of the truck), through the gap underneath between the junk here, I don’t remember exactly what is what (feel free to edit for clarity)
Attachment 46871

Once the starter is in, you can finger tighten the hex head bolts to hold it in place. Here is the starter with the bottom hex bolt, finger tight and the ground cable off. Also you can see the battery cable is looped over the starter post ready to be tightened down. You also want to hook up the ignition relay for the solenoid before doing the battery positive as the relay is a clip that will be tough to get at after the positive line has been torqued down.
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Here's a closer look
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I chose to tighten the hex bolts before I went after the battery cable connection, for the bottom bolt you can run an extension about 24” to get ahead of the front axel which gives you much more space to torque the bolt and just work your wrench in general. This is the view from the top of engine compartment of me torquing the top hex bolt with the ground cable in place.
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to give you an idea, this is how much extension I used.
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Going after the bottom hex bolt is the same as going after the starter positive post, except instead of a hex , the positive post is a 13mm socket. You want to use the adjustable angle adapter (from the previous pics) for the socket and run about 24” of extension to get you out in front of the pumpkin with your ratchet. So once you’ve got your two hex bolts (the top one including the ground cable) and your starter cable all bolted up and the solenoid relay clipped on, you’re ready to go. Don’t forget to push your heat shield clip back onto the solenoid as well.

Congrats, you just replaced your starter.
this was extremely helpful, tge pictures were great! Although i couldnt find the large ground wire? Did it get moved with a mod or something?
 

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