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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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My 98 D1 116K stalls immediately when put in gear I assume because the torque converter is locked up. As soon as it is put in gear there is a clunk and it stalls. I had no signs that it was going and I have babied it so I am wondering what caused it. I imagine there is either an internal leak or a clogged valve but It could be a solenoid right? Or would it throw a code? It is not giving any codes. I have a 96 tranny I just pulled out and it is sitting in the yard but before I make the big step of pulling out the other I want to make sure I am doing the right thing. Is there anything anyone can suggest I do to try and save the old tranny before I do the swap? If not what should I do to the new used 125K tranny while it is out.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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If you have the same tranny I have in a 97, it does not have any solenoids, all old skool hydraulics. Not really telling the ECU very much, so probably no codes. Have you changed fluid and filter (recently, a while ago, never)? Fluid level OK? Color and smell OK (red and does not smell like burned coffee)?

From the RAVE workshop manual, automatic gearbox section (you do have a copy, it's free?):

SYMPTOM 3 - No drive from rest with ’D’ selected
Select ’1’
Vehicle drives
FAULT - No 2 freewheel
If No drive
Carry out main line pressure check
If Normal pressure
FAULT - Clutch A
If No pressure
FAULT - Blocked filter or pump failure
if Low pressure
FAULT - Restricted filter or sticking primary

regulator

So you are correct, it could be something simple sticking or blocked, like the filter. In the forum tech section you will find a write up on transmission filter change, with photos to show you what to expect. In the RAVE they show you how to attach a high pressure guage and test things, etc.



If you decide to swap tranny's, consider doing a rear main seal while tranny is out.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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So, when was the last time you changed your fluid? It may be more internal then a t/c although the t/c sounds like the problem.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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Mike,

Is there a simple test to decide which (tranny vs transfer case)?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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The transfer case wont have any effect on this, his trans needs to be flushed with a special cleaner and then have the filter changed.
If that does not work then he needs to install the known good working trans.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Savannah Buzz
Mike,

Is there a simple test to decide which (tranny vs transfer case)?
You mentioned in another post about being separated by language, and I think it applies here also. I think "T/C" in Mike's post was an abbreviation for torque converter, based on thread context.

Isn't it nice how T/C can sometimes refer to transfer case, and other times torque converter?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lordmorpheus
You mentioned in another post about being separated by language, and I think it applies here also. I think "T/C" in Mike's post was an abbreviation for torque converter, based on thread context.

Isn't it nice how T/C can sometimes refer to transfer case, and other times torque converter?
Bass or bass?
Read or read?
Right or right?

Only in America do our words have double meanings. lol
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Yeah, I changed the fluid 6K miles ago when I did an engine swap. I replaced the rear main seal and all the other gaskets while I had the block on the table. Also cleaned all the sludge out of the top and bottom end. The fluid looks good and smells right. I will try the filter and pray but its is most likely swapin' time. I appreciate the input. This has been my favorite LR forum for sure. If I can get back on the road without having to sell blood for money I would like to make a donation if I could find where to do so. It might actually turn out good. Because I broke down I heard about a 98 D1 in town with a bad motor for sale for a few hundred $. Got to love cheap parts!
 
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