Window ECU plug question...
#21
04-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Rock Crawling
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04-08-2011, 02:59 PM
Rock Crawling
agreed!
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04-08-2011, 03:33 PM
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That may be acceptable as a temporary or emergency type fix, but as a permanent repair, I would consider that Totally LAME.
The reason I say that is not a personal attack on you but an assessment of the permanence or reliability of such a modification. Jamming a wire into the back of those connectors only gives you a friction fit at best. You have absolutely no positive mechanical or electrical connection. Therefore you have a very poor connection at best.
You are jumpering 12VDC. I don't know how much current is drawn thru the circuit, but at any time, hitting a bump or just repetitive vibration can result in a loose connection with possible arcing which could burn away part of the connection and even damage the connector if the plastic overheats.
All electrical connections should have a sound mechanical attachement. All you did was jam a larger piece of wire in there and you are counting on it to stay. In my opinion and vast background with avionics and various military vehicles, that would never fly. Am I being too harsh....
maybe, but that does not meet my standards of acceptability and is poor advice to offer others as well.
The reason I say that is not a personal attack on you but an assessment of the permanence or reliability of such a modification. Jamming a wire into the back of those connectors only gives you a friction fit at best. You have absolutely no positive mechanical or electrical connection. Therefore you have a very poor connection at best.
You are jumpering 12VDC. I don't know how much current is drawn thru the circuit, but at any time, hitting a bump or just repetitive vibration can result in a loose connection with possible arcing which could burn away part of the connection and even damage the connector if the plastic overheats.
All electrical connections should have a sound mechanical attachement. All you did was jam a larger piece of wire in there and you are counting on it to stay. In my opinion and vast background with avionics and various military vehicles, that would never fly. Am I being too harsh....
maybe, but that does not meet my standards of acceptability and is poor advice to offer others as well.
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04-08-2011, 03:42 PM
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Still a lame fix to a lame fix. What makes you think solder wears off? Solder does not "Wear" there is no mechanisn for what you claim. If there is please provide it.
A solder joint may fracture from vibration which is a physical wear mechanism. Cyclic movement at a small magnitude.
Unless you have some sort of force acting on the solder joint, there is nothing to wear from age or such. It will not readily deteriorate. It will melt if you reach melting temp, but other than a substandard joint to begin with or vibration, what would you have that would cause the solder to wear?
A solder joint may fracture from vibration which is a physical wear mechanism. Cyclic movement at a small magnitude.
Unless you have some sort of force acting on the solder joint, there is nothing to wear from age or such. It will not readily deteriorate. It will melt if you reach melting temp, but other than a substandard joint to begin with or vibration, what would you have that would cause the solder to wear?
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04-08-2011, 04:14 PM
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That may be acceptable as a temporary or emergency type fix, but as a permanent repair, I would consider that Totally LAME.
The reason I say that is not a personal attack on you but an assessment of the permanence or reliability of such a modification. Jamming a wire into the back of those connectors only gives you a friction fit at best. You have absolutely no positive mechanical or electrical connection. Therefore you have a very poor connection at best.
You are jumpering 12VDC. I don't know how much current is drawn thru the circuit, but at any time, hitting a bump or just repetitive vibration can result in a loose connection with possible arcing which could burn away part of the connection and even damage the connector if the plastic overheats.
All electrical connections should have a sound mechanical attachement. All you did was jam a larger piece of wire in there and you are counting on it to stay. In my opinion and vast background with avionics and various military vehicles, that would never fly. Am I being too harsh....maybe, but that does not meet my standards of acceptability and is poor advice to offer others as well.
The reason I say that is not a personal attack on you but an assessment of the permanence or reliability of such a modification. Jamming a wire into the back of those connectors only gives you a friction fit at best. You have absolutely no positive mechanical or electrical connection. Therefore you have a very poor connection at best.
You are jumpering 12VDC. I don't know how much current is drawn thru the circuit, but at any time, hitting a bump or just repetitive vibration can result in a loose connection with possible arcing which could burn away part of the connection and even damage the connector if the plastic overheats.
All electrical connections should have a sound mechanical attachement. All you did was jam a larger piece of wire in there and you are counting on it to stay. In my opinion and vast background with avionics and various military vehicles, that would never fly. Am I being too harsh....
maybe, but that does not meet my standards of acceptability and is poor advice to offer others as well.Still a lame fix to a lame fix. What makes you think solder wears off? Solder does not "Wear" there is no mechanisn for what you claim. If there is please provide it.
A solder joint may fracture from vibration which is a physical wear mechanism. Cyclic movement at a small magnitude.
Unless you have some sort of force acting on the solder joint, there is nothing to wear from age or such. It will not readily deteriorate. It will melt if you reach melting temp, but other than a substandard joint to begin with or vibration, what would you have that would cause the solder to wear?
A solder joint may fracture from vibration which is a physical wear mechanism. Cyclic movement at a small magnitude.
Unless you have some sort of force acting on the solder joint, there is nothing to wear from age or such. It will not readily deteriorate. It will melt if you reach melting temp, but other than a substandard joint to begin with or vibration, what would you have that would cause the solder to wear?
#28
04-10-2011, 08:24 PM
Mudding
That may be acceptable as a temporary or emergency type fix, but as a permanent repair, I would consider that Totally LAME.
The reason I say that is not a personal attack on you but an assessment of the permanence or reliability of such a modification. Jamming a wire into the back of those connectors only gives you a friction fit at best. You have absolutely no positive mechanical or electrical connection. Therefore you have a very poor connection at best.
You are jumpering 12VDC. I don't know how much current is drawn thru the circuit, but at any time, hitting a bump or just repetitive vibration can result in a loose connection with possible arcing which could burn away part of the connection and even damage the connector if the plastic overheats.
All electrical connections should have a sound mechanical attachement. All you did was jam a larger piece of wire in there and you are counting on it to stay. In my opinion and vast background with avionics and various military vehicles, that would never fly. Am I being too harsh....maybe, but that does not meet my standards of acceptability and is poor advice to offer others as well.
The reason I say that is not a personal attack on you but an assessment of the permanence or reliability of such a modification. Jamming a wire into the back of those connectors only gives you a friction fit at best. You have absolutely no positive mechanical or electrical connection. Therefore you have a very poor connection at best.
You are jumpering 12VDC. I don't know how much current is drawn thru the circuit, but at any time, hitting a bump or just repetitive vibration can result in a loose connection with possible arcing which could burn away part of the connection and even damage the connector if the plastic overheats.
All electrical connections should have a sound mechanical attachement. All you did was jam a larger piece of wire in there and you are counting on it to stay. In my opinion and vast background with avionics and various military vehicles, that would never fly. Am I being too harsh....
maybe, but that does not meet my standards of acceptability and is poor advice to offer others as well.
#29
04-10-2011, 08:25 PM
Mudding
Danny - were this provided as a solution for the targeting mechanism of a Cruise Missile - I would agree.
However, as a temporary solution for the SHODDY lucas ECU, this is perfectly viable - and easy (a lot easier than the solder re-flow) and excellent from a troubleshooting perspective.
Perfect - no. However, it has brought back some joy for my kids until I get the new ECU - ASSUMING I can find it....
However, as a temporary solution for the SHODDY lucas ECU, this is perfectly viable - and easy (a lot easier than the solder re-flow) and excellent from a troubleshooting perspective.
Perfect - no. However, it has brought back some joy for my kids until I get the new ECU - ASSUMING I can find it....
