'03 Discovery No Spark No Gas
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'03 Discovery No Spark No Gas
Background:
I am working on my super great girl friend's US '03 Discovery II and I owe her big time. Last week it died while driving and would not start back up. It would turn over but not start. She let it sit for 5-10 minutes and BOOM it cranked right up and down the road she went. No more problems for a few days then Saturday same thing again. She got it started after allot of cranking and made it to my place. That was the last time it ran. I can't find a service manual locally so I am depending on the Internet until I can get one Tuesday.
Troubleshooting:
[ul][*]I bought an Innova 3030 OBDII scanner. The first time I ran the codes there were NO stored codes.[*]Checked fuses and relays. Noted no "clicking" coming fuel relay(R1?) when the key is turned. Replaced blown F5.[*]Noted there is no "whirring" coming from the fuel pump when the key is turned. Exposed fuel pump & confirmed it is NOT running when the key is turned.[*]Pull plug wire and used an old plug to check for spark. I cannot see a spark. Same test w/ screwdriver arcing to the alt. bracket is NO spark aswell.[*]A little starting fluid and it tries to start. This confuses the hell out of me since there doesn't seem to be any spark.[/ul][ul][*]When it tried to start the Check Engine light flashed so I checked the codes again I recieved the following 2:
[/ul][blockquote]P0463
P1230
Fuel Level Sensor Circuit High Voltage
Fuel Pump Low Speed Malfunction (VLCM) or Fuel Pump Relay
I swapped the Relays R1 & R3 and saw no change. I am assuming R1 is the fuel pump relay.
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AT this pont I am leaning toward the fuel pump. I have read all sorts of similar stories that end in a bad crank case sensor but the lack of a crank case sensor code drops me back @ fuel pump. Any and all thoughta are appreciated.
Thanks in Advance,
JM
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I am working on my super great girl friend's US '03 Discovery II and I owe her big time. Last week it died while driving and would not start back up. It would turn over but not start. She let it sit for 5-10 minutes and BOOM it cranked right up and down the road she went. No more problems for a few days then Saturday same thing again. She got it started after allot of cranking and made it to my place. That was the last time it ran. I can't find a service manual locally so I am depending on the Internet until I can get one Tuesday.
Troubleshooting:
[ul][*]I bought an Innova 3030 OBDII scanner. The first time I ran the codes there were NO stored codes.[*]Checked fuses and relays. Noted no "clicking" coming fuel relay(R1?) when the key is turned. Replaced blown F5.[*]Noted there is no "whirring" coming from the fuel pump when the key is turned. Exposed fuel pump & confirmed it is NOT running when the key is turned.[*]Pull plug wire and used an old plug to check for spark. I cannot see a spark. Same test w/ screwdriver arcing to the alt. bracket is NO spark aswell.[*]A little starting fluid and it tries to start. This confuses the hell out of me since there doesn't seem to be any spark.[/ul][ul][*]When it tried to start the Check Engine light flashed so I checked the codes again I recieved the following 2:
[/ul][blockquote]P0463
P1230
Fuel Level Sensor Circuit High Voltage
Fuel Pump Low Speed Malfunction (VLCM) or Fuel Pump Relay
I swapped the Relays R1 & R3 and saw no change. I am assuming R1 is the fuel pump relay.
[hr]
AT this pont I am leaning toward the fuel pump. I have read all sorts of similar stories that end in a bad crank case sensor but the lack of a crank case sensor code drops me back @ fuel pump. Any and all thoughta are appreciated.
Thanks in Advance,
JM
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RE: '03 Discovery No Spark No Gas
Fuel pump will only run for about 5 seconds if the engine doesn't start then it shuts down. If it primes itself when the key is first turned on don't replace the pump.
No spark, most likely a failed crank sensor, very typical, and it won't hardily ever show a fault code.
No spark, most likely a failed crank sensor, very typical, and it won't hardily ever show a fault code.
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RE: '03 Discovery No Spark No Gas
The crank sensor is a pretty cheap part and has a high failure rate. It is ina bad spot and gets lots of oil and road grime on it.
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/ERR7354G.cfm
By cheap I mean cheaper than a fuel pump.
It controls the spark. That is where I would start. You might beable to get one at AutoZone.
And you do owe youir girlfriend big time, she has honored you with the privilage of working on her Disco.
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/ERR7354G.cfm
By cheap I mean cheaper than a fuel pump.
It controls the spark. That is where I would start. You might beable to get one at AutoZone.
And you do owe youir girlfriend big time, she has honored you with the privilage of working on her Disco.
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