Am I getting screwed?
#11
I hate reading these posts with unwarranted animosity towards repair shops... Be it a stealership or an indy, we have to make money to continue to provide you with a service. First off you have a line by line estimate of all repairs getting done, you can judge for yourself weather its fair or not. If you don't have a line by line estimate, drive away.
Second: Don't cry when they charge you 100 bucks to spend 3 man hours diagnosing, calling for prices, writing an estimate, calling you, then closing out paperwork.
Third: Don't buy your own parts. I buy my parts at a 20% discount of what you can get them for, then I mark them up 20% and charge you. So instead of the part supplier getting the 20% I do. If you bring your own parts, I wont warrantee my labor if the part you bring should fail. And if you think you are getting a bargain, you are wrong, if someone gives you a price of 1000 bucks for head gaskets, you are getting 1000 bucks worth, no cleaning, no checking for true, no machine work, no valve job, they just pop the heads off and put a new gasket in and put the heads back on. You can end up like the guy I had in my shop the other day, screaming about how he just had the head gaskets replaced 5000 miles ago at "we be fixin your car, auto repair" and now his car needs head gaskets again. But hey he got a great deal! 1000 bucks out the door!
Second: Don't cry when they charge you 100 bucks to spend 3 man hours diagnosing, calling for prices, writing an estimate, calling you, then closing out paperwork.
Third: Don't buy your own parts. I buy my parts at a 20% discount of what you can get them for, then I mark them up 20% and charge you. So instead of the part supplier getting the 20% I do. If you bring your own parts, I wont warrantee my labor if the part you bring should fail. And if you think you are getting a bargain, you are wrong, if someone gives you a price of 1000 bucks for head gaskets, you are getting 1000 bucks worth, no cleaning, no checking for true, no machine work, no valve job, they just pop the heads off and put a new gasket in and put the heads back on. You can end up like the guy I had in my shop the other day, screaming about how he just had the head gaskets replaced 5000 miles ago at "we be fixin your car, auto repair" and now his car needs head gaskets again. But hey he got a great deal! 1000 bucks out the door!
#12
I hate reading these posts with unwarranted animosity towards repair shops... Be it a stealership or an indy, we have to make money to continue to provide you with a service. First off you have a line by line estimate of all repairs getting done, you can judge for yourself weather its fair or not. If you don't have a line by line estimate, drive away.
Second: Don't cry when they charge you 100 bucks to spend 3 man hours diagnosing, calling for prices, writing an estimate, calling you, then closing out paperwork.
Third: Don't buy your own parts. I buy my parts at a 20% discount of what you can get them for, then I mark them up 20% and charge you. So instead of the part supplier getting the 20% I do. If you bring your own parts, I wont warrantee my labor if the part you bring should fail. And if you think you are getting a bargain, you are wrong, if someone gives you a price of 1000 bucks for head gaskets, you are getting 1000 bucks worth, no cleaning, no checking for true, no machine work, no valve job, they just pop the heads off and put a new gasket in and put the heads back on. You can end up like the guy I had in my shop the other day, screaming about how he just had the head gaskets replaced 5000 miles ago at "we be fixin your car, auto repair" and now his car needs head gaskets again. But hey he got a great deal! 1000 bucks out the door!
Second: Don't cry when they charge you 100 bucks to spend 3 man hours diagnosing, calling for prices, writing an estimate, calling you, then closing out paperwork.
Third: Don't buy your own parts. I buy my parts at a 20% discount of what you can get them for, then I mark them up 20% and charge you. So instead of the part supplier getting the 20% I do. If you bring your own parts, I wont warrantee my labor if the part you bring should fail. And if you think you are getting a bargain, you are wrong, if someone gives you a price of 1000 bucks for head gaskets, you are getting 1000 bucks worth, no cleaning, no checking for true, no machine work, no valve job, they just pop the heads off and put a new gasket in and put the heads back on. You can end up like the guy I had in my shop the other day, screaming about how he just had the head gaskets replaced 5000 miles ago at "we be fixin your car, auto repair" and now his car needs head gaskets again. But hey he got a great deal! 1000 bucks out the door!
#13
#15
Margin on shop-supplied parts
I can understand a shop receiviing a discount on parts, I just question whether most shops charge the effective retail price or mark the parts up further. In my experience, I think it's been the latter. That said, if you choose to take your car or truck to a shop, you should expect to pay a premium for the convenience and service.
But, what if you want to buy aftermarket stuff and have it installed? I wonder whether a typical shop can get OME or Terrafirma parts at a discount, and whether they'll pass these savings on to a consumer.
But, what if you want to buy aftermarket stuff and have it installed? I wonder whether a typical shop can get OME or Terrafirma parts at a discount, and whether they'll pass these savings on to a consumer.
#16
I can understand a shop receiviing a discount on parts, I just question whether most shops charge the effective retail price or mark the parts up further. In my experience, I think it's been the latter. That said, if you choose to take your car or truck to a shop, you should expect to pay a premium for the convenience and service.
But, what if you want to buy aftermarket stuff and have it installed? I wonder whether a typical shop can get OME or Terrafirma parts at a discount, and whether they'll pass these savings on to a consumer.
But, what if you want to buy aftermarket stuff and have it installed? I wonder whether a typical shop can get OME or Terrafirma parts at a discount, and whether they'll pass these savings on to a consumer.
Here they use NAPA as the first choice and then S&G Imports for their 2nd choice.
Thats it, if neither of those 2 carry what they need then they cannot help you.
NAPA wont carry TF, and I can almost guarantee the import supplier doesn't either.
#17
I can understand a shop receiviing a discount on parts, I just question whether most shops charge the effective retail price or mark the parts up further. In my experience, I think it's been the latter. That said, if you choose to take your car or truck to a shop, you should expect to pay a premium for the convenience and service.
But, what if you want to buy aftermarket stuff and have it installed? I wonder whether a typical shop can get OME or Terrafirma parts at a discount, and whether they'll pass these savings on to a consumer.
But, what if you want to buy aftermarket stuff and have it installed? I wonder whether a typical shop can get OME or Terrafirma parts at a discount, and whether they'll pass these savings on to a consumer.
We had no problem installing after market performance stuff that customer brought in, but we wouldn't warranty anything.
#18
The reason I said buy your own parts is that the shop I deal with does not care... If I have a better part or prefer to buy on my cc and pay it off as I choose the owner does not care. he wants to make sure that the work done is the best possible, he makes his money either way. I also know him and do most of my own work. I mean no offense to shop owners... but lets face it I know I can get better parts in most cases than they can at a good price. that is why I suggested he look at doing that.
#19
The reason I said buy your own parts is that the shop I deal with does not care... If I have a better part or prefer to buy on my cc and pay it off as I choose the owner does not care. he wants to make sure that the work done is the best possible, he makes his money either way. I also know him and do most of my own work. I mean no offense to shop owners... but lets face it I know I can get better parts in most cases than they can at a good price. that is why I suggested he look at doing that.
#20
I hate reading these posts with unwarranted animosity towards repair shops... Be it a stealership or an indy, we have to make money to continue to provide you with a service. First off you have a line by line estimate of all repairs getting done, you can judge for yourself weather its fair or not. If you don't have a line by line estimate, drive away.
Second: Don't cry when they charge you 100 bucks to spend 3 man hours diagnosing, calling for prices, writing an estimate, calling you, then closing out paperwork.
Third: Don't buy your own parts. I buy my parts at a 20% discount of what you can get them for, then I mark them up 20% and charge you. So instead of the part supplier getting the 20% I do. If you bring your own parts, I wont warrantee my labor if the part you bring should fail.out the door!
Second: Don't cry when they charge you 100 bucks to spend 3 man hours diagnosing, calling for prices, writing an estimate, calling you, then closing out paperwork.
Third: Don't buy your own parts. I buy my parts at a 20% discount of what you can get them for, then I mark them up 20% and charge you. So instead of the part supplier getting the 20% I do. If you bring your own parts, I wont warrantee my labor if the part you bring should fail.out the door!