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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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I'm not, like I said, it worked in my Pontiac. I ran the test myself. I am not saying buy one, I am just saying I have seen them work.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Are you guys kidding?

I have some ocean front property in Wisconsin for sale.
Exactly. They're not claiming much, so the ROI with their numbers is sketchy anyway. The litmus test for me is that they don't provide peer-reviewed scientific data, with a chemical explanation of what's happening at the molecular level (e.g. ion exchange, etc.),which makestheir credibility suspect. Simply saying that passing the fuel over an alloy creates a superior fuel in real-time is hard to believe on its face. According to them, the IP is in the manufacturing of the alloy itself anyway, so why not explain how it really works, with real data.

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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But the inventor has his picture taken with Jay Leno. What more do you need?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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You cannot change the molecule structure of gasoline once it is refined. And to make 93 octane they add octane booster to 87 octane gas. Obvisouly in a really consintrated form. And a engine that reguires 93 octane does so because it is a high compression engine. And if you run to low of a octane then you get spark knock and ruin the engine.
Long story short, without direct injection the fuel/air mixture has to get past the intake valves and any "tornado effect" or adomizing the fuel is null and void.
They used a diesel Jeep Liberty with Common Rail Direct Injection. In other words the fuel in injected DIRECTLY into the combustion chamber and the air still comes past the intake valves. But with a turbo it doesnt matter if the air flow is obstructed by the valves because it is under pressure.
Dont waste your money. The best way to save fuel is to SLOW DOWN.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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I always like to keep an open mind on things. It is very hard to believe, especially when the (many) claims are so hard to prove or even to disprove. (I think it's funny that it never needs maintenance or replenishment until 250,000 miles. Maybe because it doesn't do anything.) Walker Fuel Sep is another one, but it does need replenishment (5000 hours, which I guess could be close to 250,000 miles).
I don't pretend to really understand how computers work, but I know they do because I've used them. I guess you have to rely on the testimonials, which aresort of hard to deny. I can't see why they would lie, but maybe their tests were flawed somehow. It would be nice if they worked given the importance of having good quality fuel in our Rovers.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Any of those things I would have to demo for free. Not a money back guarantee, but a free trial.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Everybody send me 10 bucks. I'll get one and test it out real scientific like. That's better than blowing 200 bucks.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Just remember anytime you see these fuel saving things...With the pressure the manufacturers are under to raise fuel economy, don't you think if this device really worked it would be on our vehicles right now?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Like 8MM plug wires? Not all that is good is put onto vehicles. Just look at the crappy Wrangler tires....
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Just remember anytime you see these fuel saving things...With the pressure the manufacturers are under to raise fuel economy, don't you think if this device really worked it would be on our vehicles right now?
Especially with diesels. They're under very strict regulations to meet emissions standards. You would think that they would be all over something like this to help the fuel burn cleaner. I wonder if this thing has a patent on it so nobody else can use it?
 
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