So AB has finally disclosed the details of the engine rebuild program, and it seems I was right on the money regarding the price tag of $5000 + shipping. So what do you guys think? Is it a good deal? I like how the engines are shiny and detailed! The engines come with the following new parts installed:

New, Specially-designed Cam Bearings New Camshafts New Timing Chain New Timing Gears New Rod Bolts New Piston Rings New Flanged Sleeves New CrossboltSeals New Main Seals New Main Bearings New Rod Bearings New Freeze Plugs etc

Rover 4.6 Short Block Engine - Discovery II And Range Rover

 

I think $5000 for a short block that doesn't even come with new pistons is a horrible price.

 

If you fuguire it Approx. 1800 just to resleeve a block (LA priced), them add the cost of line bore it, deck it, install new cam bearing, sizing new rods & main bearings, new rod bolts, recodition the connecting rods cut the crank, install pistons and rings, timing chain. There is some serous time and machine work involved (Most remanufactured motors do not include new pistons, by the way) .
That being said it's pretty much up to par with Turner and everyone else by the time you figure shipping costs. And I would assume if you have a warranty problem it would be easier to return to NY than England.
Would I like to see a $2500 short block sure, am I ever going to No.

 

Every remanufactured engine I've ever seen or heard of has new pistons. Except these rover V8 engines... probably because they are $800 for a set. Still not a good reason for a $5000 engine to not come with them. The machine shop at the garage I worked at replaced pistons every single time they built an engine.

 

you dont see new pistons because they are not needed, they are a serviceable item.
When replacing the worn liner with stock size liner why would you replace the pistons?
if you have a cast iron block and your boring .30 over yes you need new pistons.
if you are replace the the sleeves with stock size sleeve you do not replace the piston,
because the bore is stock, you would only replace the piston if it is damaged.
pretty much the same with any block with removable liners.

 

Because pistons wear, skirts collapse, etc.

 

"you would only replace the piston if it is damaged".

 

quoting yourself?

For a "re-manufactured" engine, you replace or recondition all the parts that could wear. If you just replace the parts that are damaged, you are repairing not re-manufacturing.

 

So you not only replace parts that are worn your replace parts that "could wear".
exactly who's warrenty say's parts that "could wear" I have never seen parts that could wear.

This is typical of what I see under Remanufactured engine

The Building Process (Remanufactured Engines)
There are over 150 Processes involved in remanufacturing each engine that we sell. Our engines are designed to meet or exceed O.E. specifications. Featured Procedures include:
•Engine Blocks are magnafluxed, cylinders bored and precision-honed, and main saddles line-honed to exacting O.E. specifications
•Camshaft Bearings line-bored for accurate center-to-center clearance
•Engine blocks and cylinder heads precision surfaced to insure proper sealing
•Cylinder Heads magnafluxed or dye checked and machined for three-angle valve seats
•Crankshafts stress-relieved, precision ground adn micro-polished for optimum durability and surface finish
•Camshafts are precision ground or replaced with new to maintain O.E. profile
•Each engine is tested for compression, oil pressure, oil leaks, unusual engine noise and general operating condition before shipment. We test our engines so you dont have to!
•Pistons and connecting rod assemblies are balanced in sets to achieve minimum engine vibration
•Piston rings, wrist pins, and wrist pin bushings are replaced with new
•Oil pump or Oil pump kit is supplied with each engine
•Premium Installation gasket kit is supplied with each engine (unless otherwise noted)
•Only brand name internal components used in each engine
•All bearings are replaced with new
•Timing belts, chains, and gears are replaced with new
•All rubber products are O.E. quality (i.e. main seals, valve stem seals, cam seals)
•A majority of the engines that we sell are built in a ISO 14001 and ISO/TS 16949 certified facility

 

Exactly. For the engine to be re-manufactured, to like new conditions, you replace (or recondition) anything that could wear. In the old days instead of replacing pistons, they knurled them. Using your logic of only replacing parts that are failed, you'd have "remanufactured" engines with used cam shafts, because it still measured out ok.

Go to Google and type "Remanufactured engine" and click on the first link that pops up. They state that they replace the pistons, like everyone but the land rover guys do.