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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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i hate to jump in but these engines are slugs because that is how Land Rover wanted them.
If you look at the same corisonding years you will see the Rover equivalant engine out out 80 or better horsepower.
There ordered with lower comp. And smaller camshafts. But Land Rover had to Worry about warrenty them.
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I agree and when I here back I'm hoping they respond with a group buy offer. I doubt it will be a software we could just install though. If anything similar to the defender you send in your ecu so they can take data from it and they send you back a new ecu along with your original. This way you can always throw the stock ecu back in.



I obviously know this is a different engine. I don't expect our n/a v8 to compete with the turbo engine found in a defender. All I was saying is that if they could provide an ecu with upgrade performance for our truck without having to worry about throwing a bunch of bolt ons at it, it would be nice. The 175hp gain they get is with just ecu though, no bolt ons required. If you look at stage 2 that's where you start changing the bits.



I may look into this. Even the 19hp gain and 27lbs of torque would be well worth the cost.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by drowssap
i hate to jump in but these engines are slugs because that is how Land Rover wanted them.
If you look at the same corisonding years you will see the Rover equivalant engine out out 80 or better horsepower.
There ordered with lower comp. And smaller camshafts. But Land Rover had to Worry about warrenty them.
This may be true, but we won't know until we try!

Besides, if theysay they can free up 25 hp with some software adjustments, I'll take that over doing a cam.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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thesoundguru and everyone else looking at more horsepower...what about Cannibal V8 in Oklahoma?

Cannibal V8 Engines

the website seem to know their stuff. But I too would be interested in an off the shelf tune.
But that 175 gain estimate is not realistic unless we are talking about tuning a turbo engine and even then its a stretch. BMW 335 engines get 50-90hp on a tune (depending on vendor) and those are turbo gas motors. In fact a big tuner by the name of Vishnu was sued for pushing their tunes to far and causing 335 owners to have to shell out for new engines.

Also, Dusty1 has fairly extensive mods done to his. Search his threads for more insite
 

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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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I think a lot of people are missing the point. We aren't looking for 175 hp jump off a tune. That's being completely unrealistic. If we can get better fuel economy and a slight HP bump (20's range), without shelling out $5k for a new motor, then I'm happy with that.
Hell, when I was in tech school, most of the guys had volkswagens and 75% of them had tunes. There was one guy who had the tuning software on his laptop that he bought with him.

I know the VW world is way different then ours, but there is a lot we can learn from those worlds.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 02:49 PM
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I recently edited my above post due to some negative reports I found about Cannibal V8
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 03:24 PM
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OK took a look at the link and that brings the motor in that defender up to 175 HP and 450nm not giving it an additional 175hp. it's a turbo Diesel it's not a gas motor or a 4.6. They probably offer a tune for gas motor though
 

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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 07:40 PM
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Mark Adams at Tornado Systems does tunes for the Motronic system.

Tornado Systems | Engine Management Technology Specialists
 
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jafir
Mark Adams at Tornado Systems does tunes for the Motronic system.

Tornado Systems | Engine Management Technology Specialists
Best, by far. I would like to see if we can't get a 10-20 person group buy lined-up with the agreement that a representative comes to the U.S. for the job, as I for 1 lose any and all excitement at the thought of sending the ECU out of my daily driver to overseas Europe. Not happening! I might remove it to overnight the thing by certified mail within the continental US, knowing that I will have it back in 2 days but that's the extent of my optimism. But the more I looked at tornado, the less I was inclined to let anyone else reconfigure my ECU, domestic or otherwise.
 

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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 07:56 AM
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I definitely agree, a group buy on a Tornado ECU would be awesome. I would definitely try to include myself in that.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 04:55 PM
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My interest is peaked. Who's taking the lead?
 
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