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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Can be done in a weekend, while the pressures of time constraints are no fun. Problem is getting heads checked/ resurfaced. That could be a problem to coordinate
 
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Can you not borrow some wheels or hire a rent a wreck for a few days. Better than rushing under pressure and wasting good parts and time.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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I would just use the standard issue stretch head bolts.
no sense in complicating it .

Make sure antifreeze is out of the bolt holes.

Took me two weeks.
But I had a 2nd car.
I bought the rover as a project from a girl who had enough of it.
I did it at night in the parking lot with a trouble light running on
an inverter from a 12 volt spare car battery.

I also think I worked two weekends on it too.

I was near an airport and there was always gliders getting towed up to fly.
And there was a large trailer park sort of far away but the same dog always barking and a few kids always yelling.

I am sort of shocked this all worked out.
And I did not have the heads checked or milled down.
I just cleaned them with carb cleaner, new gaskets and flipped them back on.
Like flipping a hot cake.

Hardest part was the Air pipes and the valve cover gaskets.
Valve cover gaskets are a bear. As they move all around and get mis-aligned.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Ugh I hate all of this. I need to wait until next week to order HGs if that is the case but I checked today and it is down coolant a considerable amount (probably around gal or so). I'm starting to lean more toward VP gasket or a screwed front cover gasket job since it is losing coolant WAY faster than a HG leak should AND it isnt causing any misfiring/knocking/anything. I hate this cat and mouse coolant loss game!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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OK don't laugh at me.
TO hold off more problems - put in two bottles of Barr's leaks.
You'll be glad you did.
It will stem the water loss until you get time.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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I'm all for fixes in a bottle, but I don't think a Chemical Tool is gonna fix such a drastic leak.

For the record, I used the ground walnut shell pills a year ago and they completely stopped my very minor exterior head gasket coolant leak.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:57 AM
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It just boggles my mind that a head gasket could leak so much. Especially with no misfire, no rough running engine (even with a bad o2 sensor!), and no water in the exhaust. This weekend I'm going to pull the plugs and inspect and if they all come out normal then I think there are only 3 options. 1) I screwed up on my valley pan gasket a year ago, 2) I screwed up on my front cover gasket 2 months ago, or 3) there is somehow a massive crack in my block somewhere in which case driving while leaking isn't doing any more damage.

Is my logic flawed or does that sound right?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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I agree - enough of any fluid in the cylinder is going to either smoke or create a bad misfire. So if you aren't experiencing those symptoms I think the leak is not head gaskets.

You might want to reread that thread I posted. His mechanic diagnosed the problems as his timing cover partly because the fluid loss was too fast to be HG or a cracked block. But there's a few nuggets of wisdom in that thread that apply to your situation.

Did you use RTV on the timing cover gasket?

Honestly, the first thing I would do it try to get a ratchet on the timing over bolts to check that they are snug. You may have to pull the AC compressor bracket to get to it. The second thing I would do is rent a pressure tester from Advance to pressurize the cooling system and see if I can detect any leaks.
 

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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I fixed the front cover with an actual gasket coated in indian gasket shellac. It was leaking externally so I attributed all the water in my oil at the time to that. I suppose I could have botched the job and it is still leaking internally (though the oil came out clean for the first month checking often)
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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These things are magic for checking inside engines through the spark plug hole or the diesel injector hole
. Also good for inspecting inside gearboxes and axles. I have one that plugs into my laptop computer. They are another toolbox essential for seeing places on an auto.
 
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