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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 05:15 PM
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I need some help diagnosing the source of this noise. Cyclic chirping from drive train, sounds like a sparrow, but is fairly quiet.

chirpchripchirpchirp

Observations:

1. Increases with vehicle speed, not engine speed, no noise at idle
2. Very quiet, only audible with windows down, between 5 - 25 mph
3. Front prop shaft is the grease-able type (I assume PO replaced it)
4. Both prop shafts have been greased twice since January, including the 'slave grease nipple' (ha!) on the front shaft. I used a ton of grease.

Wheel bearing? Transfer case bearings? Diff bearings? Transmission output bearing? Prop shaft u-joints? Where do I even start?

To do:
1. Get under car and check for play in prop shafts
2. Re-grease prop shafts and re-check for noise
3. Jack up wheels and check for wheel play

I don't have the budget to replace all the wheel bearings and front prop shaft at once.

Thanks for any troubleshooting advice.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RoverSeriesInf
I need some help diagnosing the source of this noise. Cyclic chirping from drive train, sounds like a sparrow, but is fairly quiet.

chirpchripchirpchirp

Observations:

1. Increases with vehicle speed, not engine speed, no noise at idle
2. Very quiet, only audible with windows down, between 5 - 25 mph
3. Front prop shaft is the grease-able type (I assume PO replaced it)
4. Both prop shafts have been greased twice since January, including the 'slave grease nipple' (ha!) on the front shaft. I used a ton of grease.

Wheel bearing? Transfer case bearings? Diff bearings? Transmission output bearing? Prop shaft u-joints? Where do I even start?

To do:
1. Get under car and check for play in prop shafts
2. Re-grease prop shafts and re-check for noise
3. Jack up wheels and check for wheel play

I don't have the budget to replace all the wheel bearings and front prop shaft at once.

Thanks for any troubleshooting advice.
IMO it's the driveshaft. Don't drive it until it's fixed or replaced.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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The sparrow type noise is almost always a driveshaft - either universal joint or centering ball.

Adam
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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Can you try coasting slowly in neutral with the engine off, with someone walking beside? That might help you narrow down the location.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Drive shaft going bad. Like said, u-joint or centering ball. If it fails it can knock a hole in the transmission case. $$$$. Rebuild yourself, or take to driveline shop, or buy replacement (OEM or aftermarket, typically aftermarket better bang for the buck). Test for u-joint, listen for a clunk when placing into drive from neutral back to neutral to reverse. A worn sloppy u-joint will clunk between opposite directions.
 

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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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It's 100% always the front driveshaft as OH&D said
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 08:25 PM
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Drive shaft 1

Drive Shaft 2

I just got driveshaft 2 this afternoon and installed.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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I'd go with number 2 as well and not be the test mule for that one.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 09:54 PM
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I'd go with number 2 as well and not be the test mule for that one.
100%! And at least you know L8 will stand behind the sale.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 10:32 PM
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Exactly
 
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