Deleting oil cooler
#1
Deleting oil cooler
I did some searching but didn't come up with anything. I have an 02 and have a little seepage from the connection to the line and cooler which I know Is common. Since the coolers were deleted later on anyway it would seem simple to delete the whole thing and be done instead of spending money on new lines etc. From what I read the cooler really doesn't change much in the way of temps to begin with. I plan to just get some plugs for the timing cover etc and be done. Is there any difference in covers from the discos equipped with coolers vs those without. I believe the later models were just plugged anyway.
#4
I did some searching but didn't come up with anything. I have an 02 and have a little seepage from the connection to the line and cooler which I know Is common. Since the coolers were deleted later on anyway it would seem simple to delete the whole thing and be done instead of spending money on new lines etc. From what I read the cooler really doesn't change much in the way of temps to begin with. I plan to just get some plugs for the timing cover etc and be done. Is there any difference in covers from the discos equipped with coolers vs those without. I believe the later models were just plugged anyway.
#5
Any data on what the deltas are between equipped discos and non equipped? I prefer to have a cooler but if we are only talking about a few degrees then eliminating a leak point seems smart. My coolant temps are 180's so it wouldn't surprise me if the few degrees of added oil temp might creep over into the coolant temp.
I'm not against replacing the seal or lines if its cost effective. I would just have to dig around for some part numbers and info.
I'm not against replacing the seal or lines if its cost effective. I would just have to dig around for some part numbers and info.
Last edited by usaf_disco; 05-18-2017 at 09:46 AM.
#6
I dug this up on the forums.
So I finally got the my oil temp gauge installed and got some numbers before and after installing the thermostat mod.
Before Mod (outside around 90-95F):
Idle - ~200F Oil Temp
Highway - ~220F
After Mod (Outside 95-100F):
Idle - ~180
Highway - ~220F
Oil temp even hit 240F while going up I-70 out of Denver into the Mtns (for those that dont know its about 7-10 miles of steep grade)
Anyone else have oil temp numbers? 220F running at 55mph-75mph down the highway is way too hot if you ask me (95-100F outside...pretty much the story of the country for the past month)... i thought the oil cooler mod was going to be over kill but now i am wonder why the hell they deleted it on 4.6...
(Rad fluid was flushed and changed with Peak - Global and a bottle of water wetter; 75K 2003 D2 4.6)
Update:
I installed a used oil cooler and lines from a 4.0, bolted right on. Had to essentially release the radiator from the front so that the radiator could be pushed back toward the fan and the cooler could be dropped in. Really not a bad job...the biggest pain was routing the cooler lines...they have to go in exactly the right place or they wont slide in allowing the nut to be tightened...couldn't find a good diagram in the RAVE but managed to get them on...took about the same time as installing the cooler.
So far not too impressed with the results... I just got it in last night and went for a cruise, oil temp went up to 200-204F with the outside air around 80F, cruising on the highway 60-65 AC off.
This morning was a little better 176-180 with outside air around 70F and traveling slightly slower.
I was shocked to see it get above 200 last night...i really expected it to make a huge difference...and ideally i want my oil around 180...
I need to gather some more data but am i missing something here?
Anyone have oil temp numbers to compare?
So I finally got the my oil temp gauge installed and got some numbers before and after installing the thermostat mod.
Before Mod (outside around 90-95F):
Idle - ~200F Oil Temp
Highway - ~220F
After Mod (Outside 95-100F):
Idle - ~180
Highway - ~220F
Oil temp even hit 240F while going up I-70 out of Denver into the Mtns (for those that dont know its about 7-10 miles of steep grade)
Anyone else have oil temp numbers? 220F running at 55mph-75mph down the highway is way too hot if you ask me (95-100F outside...pretty much the story of the country for the past month)... i thought the oil cooler mod was going to be over kill but now i am wonder why the hell they deleted it on 4.6...
(Rad fluid was flushed and changed with Peak - Global and a bottle of water wetter; 75K 2003 D2 4.6)
Update:
I installed a used oil cooler and lines from a 4.0, bolted right on. Had to essentially release the radiator from the front so that the radiator could be pushed back toward the fan and the cooler could be dropped in. Really not a bad job...the biggest pain was routing the cooler lines...they have to go in exactly the right place or they wont slide in allowing the nut to be tightened...couldn't find a good diagram in the RAVE but managed to get them on...took about the same time as installing the cooler.
So far not too impressed with the results... I just got it in last night and went for a cruise, oil temp went up to 200-204F with the outside air around 80F, cruising on the highway 60-65 AC off.
This morning was a little better 176-180 with outside air around 70F and traveling slightly slower.
I was shocked to see it get above 200 last night...i really expected it to make a huge difference...and ideally i want my oil around 180...
I need to gather some more data but am i missing something here?
Anyone have oil temp numbers to compare?
#7
I dug this up on the forums.
So I finally got the my oil temp gauge installed and got some numbers before and after installing the thermostat mod.
Before Mod (outside around 90-95F):
Idle - ~200F Oil Temp
Highway - ~220F
After Mod (Outside 95-100F):
Idle - ~180
Highway - ~220F
Oil temp even hit 240F while going up I-70 out of Denver into the Mtns (for those that dont know its about 7-10 miles of steep grade)
Anyone else have oil temp numbers? 220F running at 55mph-75mph down the highway is way too hot if you ask me (95-100F outside...pretty much the story of the country for the past month)... i thought the oil cooler mod was going to be over kill but now i am wonder why the hell they deleted it on 4.6...
(Rad fluid was flushed and changed with Peak - Global and a bottle of water wetter; 75K 2003 D2 4.6)
Update:
I installed a used oil cooler and lines from a 4.0, bolted right on. Had to essentially release the radiator from the front so that the radiator could be pushed back toward the fan and the cooler could be dropped in. Really not a bad job...the biggest pain was routing the cooler lines...they have to go in exactly the right place or they wont slide in allowing the nut to be tightened...couldn't find a good diagram in the RAVE but managed to get them on...took about the same time as installing the cooler.
So far not too impressed with the results... I just got it in last night and went for a cruise, oil temp went up to 200-204F with the outside air around 80F, cruising on the highway 60-65 AC off.
This morning was a little better 176-180 with outside air around 70F and traveling slightly slower.
I was shocked to see it get above 200 last night...i really expected it to make a huge difference...and ideally i want my oil around 180...
I need to gather some more data but am i missing something here?
Anyone have oil temp numbers to compare?
So I finally got the my oil temp gauge installed and got some numbers before and after installing the thermostat mod.
Before Mod (outside around 90-95F):
Idle - ~200F Oil Temp
Highway - ~220F
After Mod (Outside 95-100F):
Idle - ~180
Highway - ~220F
Oil temp even hit 240F while going up I-70 out of Denver into the Mtns (for those that dont know its about 7-10 miles of steep grade)
Anyone else have oil temp numbers? 220F running at 55mph-75mph down the highway is way too hot if you ask me (95-100F outside...pretty much the story of the country for the past month)... i thought the oil cooler mod was going to be over kill but now i am wonder why the hell they deleted it on 4.6...
(Rad fluid was flushed and changed with Peak - Global and a bottle of water wetter; 75K 2003 D2 4.6)
Update:
I installed a used oil cooler and lines from a 4.0, bolted right on. Had to essentially release the radiator from the front so that the radiator could be pushed back toward the fan and the cooler could be dropped in. Really not a bad job...the biggest pain was routing the cooler lines...they have to go in exactly the right place or they wont slide in allowing the nut to be tightened...couldn't find a good diagram in the RAVE but managed to get them on...took about the same time as installing the cooler.
So far not too impressed with the results... I just got it in last night and went for a cruise, oil temp went up to 200-204F with the outside air around 80F, cruising on the highway 60-65 AC off.
This morning was a little better 176-180 with outside air around 70F and traveling slightly slower.
I was shocked to see it get above 200 last night...i really expected it to make a huge difference...and ideally i want my oil around 180...
I need to gather some more data but am i missing something here?
Anyone have oil temp numbers to compare?
#9
#10
Any data on what the deltas are between equipped discos and non equipped? I prefer to have a cooler but if we are only talking about a few degrees then eliminating a leak point seems smart. My coolant temps are 180's so it wouldn't surprise me if the few degrees of added oil temp might creep over into the coolant temp.
I'm not against replacing the seal or lines if its cost effective. I would just have to dig around for some part numbers and info.
I'm not against replacing the seal or lines if its cost effective. I would just have to dig around for some part numbers and info.