Disco II Transmission failure?
#11
Another thought: the system would presumably detect a loss in transmission fluid pressure and or a solenoid failure. So what else could be causing this? As I said I see no codes on the OBD II port or the MIL or Check engine light do not come on.
In N I can push the vehicle as normal.
Thanks
Paul.
In N I can push the vehicle as normal.
Thanks
Paul.
#12
#14
Thanks
Thanks for the latest series of suggestions. I have checked fluid level, in fact I overhauled the fluid and flushed what I could get at.
As to how mechanical I am: I would be confident enough to remove and repair either front or rear diff and axle components. I would also attempt the exchange of the transmission had I access to a lift that I don't here in NC, I did in Ohio where I was an Engineer/ production Manager for a Tier 1 conversion company for Ford (Natural Gas conversion and later seating, also recall and campaign work).
Can I get at the Transfer case and remove it without too much interference from the transmission? I would probably tackle this and the removal of drive shafts and center diff if it could be done just on jack stands. I can probably get 18-24" lift on the frame? Would I be able to see any faults even if I did this?
Let me know, I do hate taking my vehicles to dealers and have serviced all my vehicles from Brand new my self. Having seen and heard of some of the horror stories coming in from the main dealers. Or maybe I'm just paranoid I guess.
Once again I thank you all for your help and consideration.
Paul.
As to how mechanical I am: I would be confident enough to remove and repair either front or rear diff and axle components. I would also attempt the exchange of the transmission had I access to a lift that I don't here in NC, I did in Ohio where I was an Engineer/ production Manager for a Tier 1 conversion company for Ford (Natural Gas conversion and later seating, also recall and campaign work).
Can I get at the Transfer case and remove it without too much interference from the transmission? I would probably tackle this and the removal of drive shafts and center diff if it could be done just on jack stands. I can probably get 18-24" lift on the frame? Would I be able to see any faults even if I did this?
Let me know, I do hate taking my vehicles to dealers and have serviced all my vehicles from Brand new my self. Having seen and heard of some of the horror stories coming in from the main dealers. Or maybe I'm just paranoid I guess.
Once again I thank you all for your help and consideration.
Paul.
#16
Can I get at the Transfer case and remove it without too much interference from the transmission? I would probably tackle this and the removal of drive shafts and center diff if it could be done just on jack stands. I can probably get 18-24" lift on the frame? Would I be able to see any faults even if I did this?
#17
Paul, when you put the tranny in any gear, does the RPM drop down based on the load from the tranny? If while in gear, do you hear any noise from the tranny or the t/case and be specific?
I am still thinking the tranny is gone, if it were the t/case and it exploded, it would be noisey as hell.
I am still thinking the tranny is gone, if it were the t/case and it exploded, it would be noisey as hell.
#18
That's the starnge thing
Thanks once again for your suggestions.
There is no unusual noises from anything in that area. I would have thought a mechanical failure would have thrown some swarf or other metal parts about that would make a noise.
When I shift from P to N to D I can hear a solenoid engage/disengage and the revs actually rise slightly as though a load has been removed from the engine.
The torque convertor is it just like a big solenoid actuated clutch? If it where not disengaging would this mean the engine force is never transmitted to the transmission? Could this indicate a filed torque convertor solenoid? Or am I looking at this too simply.
Are there any points I can see the engine shaft rotating and rule out some things.
At the moment my list of possible suspects are:
Linkage between engine crank and torque convertor.
Torque convertor
Linkage from torque convertor to transmission.
Transmission.
Linkage from transmission to transfer case or central diff.
Transfer and or central diff.
Drive from transfer case to either front or rear differential (I know the shafts are not rotating but what about the part that they link into)? If I where to lock the central diff using the manual method for 4 wheel roll testing would this be safe to rule this out?
I will investigate these a bit further and see if I can rule any out. Any body have any further ideas.
Thanks so far
Paul.
There is no unusual noises from anything in that area. I would have thought a mechanical failure would have thrown some swarf or other metal parts about that would make a noise.
When I shift from P to N to D I can hear a solenoid engage/disengage and the revs actually rise slightly as though a load has been removed from the engine.
The torque convertor is it just like a big solenoid actuated clutch? If it where not disengaging would this mean the engine force is never transmitted to the transmission? Could this indicate a filed torque convertor solenoid? Or am I looking at this too simply.
Are there any points I can see the engine shaft rotating and rule out some things.
At the moment my list of possible suspects are:
Linkage between engine crank and torque convertor.
Torque convertor
Linkage from torque convertor to transmission.
Transmission.
Linkage from transmission to transfer case or central diff.
Transfer and or central diff.
Drive from transfer case to either front or rear differential (I know the shafts are not rotating but what about the part that they link into)? If I where to lock the central diff using the manual method for 4 wheel roll testing would this be safe to rule this out?
I will investigate these a bit further and see if I can rule any out. Any body have any further ideas.
Thanks so far
Paul.
#19
Can I get at the Transfer case and remove it without too much interference from the transmission? I would probably tackle this and the removal of drive shafts and center diff if it could be done just on jack stands. I can probably get 18-24" lift on the frame? Would I be able to see any faults even if I did this?
#20
I just gave up and had the vehicle towed to a dealer who seems to have LR in the lot being worked on all the time (either means he's good or never gets them fixed so they keep coming back!). Anyway as I was loading onto truck low and behold the S and M lights started to flash I quickly dug out the OBD tester and found a P0722 (no speed sensor fault).
Not sure if this is per-tenant to issues but wish I would have had it happen before!
Any new ideas?
Thanks
Paul.
Not sure if this is per-tenant to issues but wish I would have had it happen before!
Any new ideas?
Thanks
Paul.